Police and face coverings

[stinkwheel]

It was just something I was pondering that might be a topic for discussion. The more potentially dodgy a thing the police seem to be doing, the more likely they seem to be to cover their face. Taken to an extreme in the US at the moment with their ICE agents but you see a lot of it in the UK these days too. I can think of several reasons why they WOULD want their face covered but so people can't see who they are generally isn't one of them.

Legitimate reasons I can think of:
1) Cold face: So the temperature should be below a certain limit before you're allowed to.

2) Safety from flying objects/noxious substances: Fine, if that's a risk, you should be wearing gear rated to cover that specific risk. Which is never a balaclava or buff and would presumably also include CE approved eye protection too.

3) Operational Security: I can see there would be a very small number of circumstances where an undercover officer would need to conceal their identity. So it should be using a piece of issued uniform and it's use should be only on the specific written permission of the chief constable having made a case for why it's needed.

Policing shouldn't on the whole be secretive. Especially not when uniformed and in the public eye. If as a uniformed policeman you are doing something you don't want people to see you doing. Should you be doing it?
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[Kawasaki Jimbo]

Yes, I saw the video of the two women disrespecting and then driving away from an ICE agent who didn’t seem to be in danger but shot to kill anyway, and I wondered why a person could murder another with so little provocation.

There’s no simple answer but I wonder whether a militarised, individually-anonymised police force feels they’ve got nowhere else to go in that situation. They can’t just do nothing and allow the agency to be neutered. Meanwhile they feel they have no individual responsibility in the moment, they are simply an arm of the agency. It does seem like an irrational leap but in that situation with the resources they have, they may feel firearms are the inevitable resort. Anarchic behaviour invites an authoritarian response.

[Val]

[sickpup]

[Jmoan]

[M.C]

[Polarbear]

Whatever the arguments it's big brother is watching you.

Actually Islamic face coverings are holding up what the government want, bare faces for recognition. They can't order uncovered faces without ordering ALL faces uncovered.

It must really piss them off they can't do it without pissing off the Muslim vote.
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[sickpup]

[Easy-X]

We're in the era where "observers" are specifically tasked with recording all the faces of law enforcement officers. Another team of people trawl social media and attempt to track down their home addresses. The info is then made available in the hopes that some nutter does them harm.
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[sickpup]

[Easy-X]

It's definitely escalating. Surely our godly leaders foresaw this happenstance when they sought to replace a homogeneous society run on consent and courtesy with "everyone is equal" diversity and rules-based order
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