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Gracie Jones
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PostPosted: 10:26 - 15 Apr 2005    Post subject: Map - I found out carb icing was to blame . . . Reply with quote

Someone finally explained to me the other day how it was that carb icing resulted in the engine firing on only two cylinders.

For most this is obvious, but I could not work out why it happened, so for Map, and anyone else - here is the explanation which explains (?) the exact symptoms we were suffering from in February when it was freezing.

The cold weather means moisture particles in the air freeze - this happens in the Carbs. The effect is that the mixture of fuel and air now contains some ice which prevents combustion.

Now, the reason some cyclinders fire and others don't is because their positioning on the bike exposes them to different temperatures, which is why on twins that get carb icing, it is obvious that the same cylinder doesn't fire when affected by it.

This also explains why it wears off after 10-15 minutes of riding - as the bike warms up, it counteracts the cold and stops the moisture in the air from freezing. Also, this is why stopping for 5 minutes also helps - the heat of the bike warms the air . . .

Problems can occur with carb icing, as when the petrol does not ignite it just sits there, which eats away at the oil in the cylinder which normally the petrol doesn't touch because it explodes so quickly after entering the chamber.

Hope that is a) correct and b) useful.

Best,

Luke
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PostPosted: 11:29 - 15 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

About aircraft, but is the best article i've found
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 11:33 - 15 Apr 2005    Post subject: Re: Map - I found out carb icing was to blame . . . Reply with quote

Gracie Jones wrote:
The cold weather means moisture particles in the air freeze - this happens in the Carbs. The effect is that the mixture of fuel and air now contains some ice which prevents combustion.


Hi

Not quite. What happens is that the pressure change in the carbs combined with the heat drawn out of the carbs by the fuel being drawn into the engine causes the moisture in the air to freeze in the carbs, generally blocking the jets.

All the best

Keith
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map
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PostPosted: 11:47 - 15 Apr 2005    Post subject: Re: Map - I found out carb icing was to blame . . . Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
...the pressure change in the carbs combined with the heat drawn out of the carbs by the fuel being drawn into the engine causes the moisture in the air to freeze in the carbs, generally blocking the jets....

Which is why I originally said carb icing was more likely to be the cause when the bike is in motion (carbs doing more work + chill factor from moving in the air), not sitting at idle.

Glad problem sorted.
If keeping bike try some fuel additive when it gets colder. Yamaha did a good one for carb icing but hard to get hold off. I think Silkolene do an alternative.

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PostPosted: 12:55 - 15 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

redex 4 star stuff works well.

Carb icing is a serious problem for me, running pod filters lol.
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