What have you done to your bike today?

hellkat · Super Spammer Joined: 12 Jul 2004 Karma :

That's the one
(sorry, brain fart moment Laughing

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Feasty · World Chat Champion Joined: 01 Nov 2006 Karma :

So today (over the last week) I fitted a cheap AliExpress gear indicator to my TDM900, which didn't work.
I then used AI instructions to repeatedly try and fix it, moving the speed sensor connection to different places on different settings. It's now destined for the bin.

Conclusion:
1) AI likes to change it's instructions every time something doesn't work, making out you got it wrong in the first place, and responds in a patronising way when you point out it's clearly got something wrong.
2) Don't bother trying to use cheap Chinese gadgets unless you've got a LOT of spare time on your hands!
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Previous: Aprilia Habana Retro 50cc (beauty), Yamaha SR125 (fell apart), Honda XR125 (nippy little commuter), Honda SLR650 (Geewhizz), Yamaha Diversion 900S (Smoooooth) written off courtesy of a stupid escaped horse.
(7 year gap), BMW F650 (Relaxing ride). Aprilia Caponord ETV1000 (Big and bold). Yamaha FZS600 (got me in trouble too quick!).
Current: Yamaha TDM 900 (Comfy, light but big, power when needed).

MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

*sigh*

AI will only produce a response that sounds like it *might* be correct. It is not a fountain of knowledge. Something obscure like a Chinese gear position indicator is likely to not have accessible manuals online, and so the AI WILL just make shit up. That's what it does. The tech companies call it 'hallucinations' but what it really is is a way of stopping the AI from announcing that it doesn't know everything.
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Remember kids, bikes aren't like lego. You can't easily take a part from one bike and then fit it to another.

Kawasaki Jimbo · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 Oct 2015 Karma :

Right now AI is researching human-authored sources. What happens two years down the line when it’s pulling ‘facts’ from an abundance of AI-authored material?

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MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

Kawasaki Jimbo · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 Oct 2015 Karma :

Yep, it’ll be dog poo.

My employer (for 3 more weeks until redundancy and retirement) expects that AI-produced material will be reviewed by humans before publication, but as staff with hard-won experience and understanding leave it means the newer, younger ones are denied those same opportunities to learn. How are they going to challenge what AI produces? Since we’re developing medicines it’s quite a scary thought.

MarJay · But it's British! Joined: 15 Sep 2003 Karma :

Kawasaki Jimbo · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 Oct 2015 Karma :

Rob W · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 Nov 2004 Karma :

to v or not to v · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Nov 2020 Karma :

to get the thread back on subject...
fitted a rear hugger from China. £60 as opposed to £135 from Pyramid.
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Easy-X · Super Spammer Joined: 08 Mar 2019 Karma :

More news on the Harley stuck brake light problem - the Breakout is Brake-on / Broke-on Wink

Did some diagnosing. The right switch cluster that also has the front brake switch is CAN-bus. Mostly anything you press goes over data-wires except the kill switch which is separate. If you disconnect the right switch cluster you can't turn on the bike but if you turn on the bike, disconnect the switch and then hit the kill switch it still turns off... hope that makes sense Laughing

Anyhoo, with the switch cluster connected and the front brake pulled in (with the engine cold) the brake lights work as expected. If you hold the lever in and at the same time disconnect the switch cluster the brake lights go off. Conclusion: 'front brake on' is a continuous 'ON' signal to the BCM not explicit 'ON' and 'OFF' signals.

The Plan: wait for the Old Fella to come back from a long run tomorrow. Hopefully the bike comes back with the brake lights stuck on. If so, we disconnect the switch cluster and see if the lights go off. If they do, it's the switch cluster. If they don't, it's the BCM and ker-ching, take out a second mortgage and send it to a Harley dealer.

BTW, to get at the connector for the switch cluster means unbolting the fuel tank. At this point we could probably do it blindfolded Laughing

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