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PostPosted: 01:48 - 15 Apr 2005    Post subject: how much do you actually need to lean? Reply with quote

Thing is I was out on a good long ride yesturday and was carrying a fair amount of speed through some corners and although I felt the bike would lean more I did'nt really feel the need to do so.

The thing is on my old tyre I got rid of all my chicken strips but the new tyre seems to be less easy to do so it's like it needs to lean more even though the tyre size is the same. The front has got literally no chicken strips (also new) but the rear has about 3/4 of an inch each side. I am not afraid of leaning the bike infact I love doing so but like I say I don't feel as though the bike needs to even if I speed up or slow down!

I have finally found a good setting for my suspension from a bike maga few years ago so i will try setting it up for that and see if the bike feels more eager to lean etc also I think my back tyre has been pumped a little too high from the garage who fit the tyres.
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PostPosted: 08:31 - 15 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might be useful for your set up:

https://www.btinternet.com/~stuart.wheal/settings.htm
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PostPosted: 14:54 - 15 Apr 2005    Post subject: Re: how much do you actually need to lean? Reply with quote

paulyzf600 wrote:
Thing is I was out on a good long ride yesturday and was carrying a fair amount of speed through some corners and although I felt the bike would lean more I did'nt really feel the need to do so.

So whats the fucking problem??? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 15 Apr 2005    Post subject: Re: how much do you actually need to lean? Reply with quote

ZRX61 wrote:
So whats the fucking problem??? Rolling Eyes


Chicken strips is my guess. Smile I'd make sure your tyres are the correct pressure, I'm not sure whether over-inflated tyres might make your angle of lean not wear so far over the tyre.
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 15 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair point! just nice to have no chicken strips I am sure you understand but still I don't really care I was just asking other bikers how they felt about the subject.
So I suppose there is no FUCKING problem ey?
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PostPosted: 15:23 - 15 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should check your tyre pressure at least once a week.

Chicken strips have nothing to do with how fast you can go round a corner, it's more how far you can lean the bike. Most modern bikes hit the hero blobs or stand before all the tyre is used up.
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PostPosted: 15:29 - 15 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bit OT but does anybody have the suspension setup guide for a 2001 ZX6R?

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PostPosted: 17:54 - 15 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finglonga wrote:
Chicken strips have nothing to do with how fast you can go round a corner, it's more how far you can lean the bike. Most modern bikes hit the hero blobs or stand before all the tyre is used up.

How far you lean your bike has an effect on how fast you go around a corner Smile.

I have a r6 with standard rearsets, no chicken strips and my pegs have only gone down when something has gone wrong.

While hanging off, I've got past the limits of traction before pegs have gone down on quite a few other bikes.

Infact the only bike I can recall having a problem with was a quite squidgy thundercat at Cadwell (probably not helped that I was 1/3 heavier than it's normal rider Smile ).
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PostPosted: 19:22 - 15 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

markcatate wrote:
Bit OT but does anybody have the suspension setup guide for a 2001 ZX6R?

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Bit OT, but do you not know how to use Google?

https://www.xs4all.nl/~chinchey/html/setup.html
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PostPosted: 19:41 - 15 Apr 2005    Post subject: Re: how much do you actually need to lean? Reply with quote

paulyzf600 wrote:
The front has got literally no chicken strips (also new) but the rear has about 3/4 of an inch each side.


I don't know a lot about this but that would concern me. Sounds like you run the risk of running off the tread on the front before the rear. Front end breaking away= shitting pants in my book.

Are your new tyres the same profile as the old ones?
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PostPosted: 20:24 - 15 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The front has got literally no chicken strips (also new) but the rear has about 3/4 of an inch each side.


I find it happens the other way round i.e. The rear runs out before the front. Using 208GPs so it may have summat to do with the profile but, saying that, i cannot recall using up the front before the rear. Whatever tyres i,ve used, even when i've been on the rims of the rear, the front has still got 1 or 2 mm of "chicken strip" left.
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PostPosted: 01:28 - 16 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

The tyres on the bike are both brand new and are of the same profile as before the front being 120/60 ZR 17 and the back 160/60 ZR 17.
The front does have a bit left but not as much as the back.

I am going to set the suspension up and see if that changes much seems the back might not be set up well at all. mind need this bloody hail to stop!
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PostPosted: 08:44 - 16 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Normally the rear tyre is a slightly lower profile (I think my r6 has a 70 front and a 55 rear at the mo). With that I tend to have a little left on the front compared to none on the rear.
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PostPosted: 09:57 - 16 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are the tyres the same brand/model? The actual shape of tyres varies between brands, possibly resulting in said chiken strip situation.

If they are the same probably find they are gone by the time the tyre is worn out.
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 16 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah they are the same brand.
I have just had another look and it seems that when the tyre wears a little bit more it would be easier to get it onto that part of the tyre. Well I'll just leave it and just keep riding there is nothing wrong just was wondering if anyone else found this happen to them.
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 17 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK update is I tried out the suspension set-up that MCN done and it's justa little too soft on the back, It courses the back to crouch down making the front seem too light. I actually had the front end squirm a couple of times.
I think I just need to load the pre-load up a little again. any thoughts?
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 17 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

different makes of tyre have different profiles, tyre width can make a difference aswell.
If the tyre is too wide for the rim, not the reccomended size it will pinch in more when fitted which in efect will give it a more curved profile which means you'll have to lean more to scrub it to the edges.
If your riding fast anyway why bother whith how wide your strips are??
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