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 cc123 Geez a joab?

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I never had one go till I tried the practive Q's on my actual test date. Unless your a complete muppet you can't fail it....
I still say it's the biggest waste of time and effort ever devised by the DVLA! ____________________ Old bikes >>> https://www.bikepics.com/members/cc123/ |
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The idea of it is to click when a potential hazard develops into a hazard which forces you to change direction or change speed. I.E. A car parked in a drive way with its reversing lights on is a potential hazard but the system won't count it as a hazard untill it starts to reverse into your path.
A little practice on a £10 cd-rom would pretty much guarantee a pass though.
Edit: I failed my Hazard Perception on my car theory test 29 out of 75 . Passed it second time after practicing on a CD, 66 out of 75. Passed the motorbike theory first time, 64 out of 75.
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 Method World Chat Champion

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The motorcycle and car hazard tests are the same.
I found that i needed to click a few times for each hazard, as i had been riding around on my cbt for over a year i had allready learnt to spot hazards, and during the practice questions on my cd-rom i found i was clicking too early, seeing the hazards before the program had expected me to, and therefore was not getting points for it, as did quite a few of the people on this forum. Its a common problem. I found if i clicked when i saw the hazard, when the hazard became an obvious problem (eg started to move, or reverse lights came on etc..) then once more just before evasive action had to be taken, i would get marks. (BUT DONT CLICK TOO OFTEN ELSE THEY WILL FAIL YOU! ASSUMING YOU ARE A CHEATER)
I suggest getting the CD-ROM, just to familiarise yourself with how it works, and how to use the "clicking" procedure, it can only help you realy and not only that but it gets rid of the "i dont know what to expect, will it be hard, how easy will it be, what will i have to do" nerves when your sitting at your desk.
Dave.
 ____________________ CBT Aug '03 ... Gilera GSM 50 ... Honda NSR 125 Aug '04 ...
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You failed Zero-G!!!!
But IMO it's a complete waste of time, clicking a mouse ain't gonna save your arse if it happens to you in real life. ____________________ Old bikes >>> https://www.bikepics.com/members/cc123/ |
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 JonB Afraid of Mileage

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The hazard perception is not a waste of time, if I had my way i'd have anyone who failed it not being able to ride or drive at all, anybody who can not spot a severe hazard in 5 seconds shouldn't be allowed on the road IMO.
I liked it.  ____________________ Be careful whose advice you buy, but, be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it?s worth. |
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yea but spotting it doesnt exactly make you an "amazing" or "tallented" rider / driver does it lol, like i said it realy doesnt take a genious or indeed a sensible person to notice an obvious hazard within 5 seconds...
For example one of my clips was in a housing estate with a playing field to my left, there was nothing moving apart from a little lad on a bicycle on the field coming towards to road, now is that not obvious what is going to happen next?
"click, click..... click....click...." ____________________ CBT Aug '03 ... Gilera GSM 50 ... Honda NSR 125 Aug '04 ...
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But you only need to click once? what's the deal? The only reason people fail is because they don't trust the computers to actually register a click and if you ask me i'm sure there are at least a couple of programmers who actually have their head screwed on.  ____________________ Be careful whose advice you buy, but, be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it?s worth. |
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 cc123 Geez a joab?

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I can see why it was done but it's either a moving car or a moving person....
What about the old biddy that jumps out from a roundabout thinking they can make it before you get there. Practice in real life in real situations can only train you for that, not clicking a mouse! ____________________ Old bikes >>> https://www.bikepics.com/members/cc123/ |
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Well I knew my theory would be controversial but I don't care I still think the Hazard Perception is a good idea.  ____________________ Be careful whose advice you buy, but, be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it?s worth. |
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Well yes and no but I still think its a waste of time. Some folk have never ever used a mouse never let alone tried to pass a test with one!
I just thought it was bollocks. There are far more hazards on the road than what was displayed on the test I got.
I'm sure they will no doubt make it more complicated and harder to get on the road in the future both for car and bike drivers/riders. ____________________ Old bikes >>> https://www.bikepics.com/members/cc123/ |
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Look at it this way. Now I don't want to generalise and this is only coming from personal experiences, but there are plenty of people pulling out of me from junctions, from the side of the road, now whether this is related it probably unlikely, but most of them seemed to be over the age of 25, now this is high speculation, but don't you think that possibly in some way people have learnt to look out for other road users more? TBH the test from what my Dad has told me seemed to be a lot easier 20+ years ago. All my Dad had to do to pass his bike test was ride around the block a couple of times. Without anybody following him, now my theory is that in 20 years time if the Hazard perception and more stringent tests that the roads will be safer due to theoretically, safer drivers/riders.
This may not cohere with my original arguement, but the more things that come into the test the more people get educated and hopefully more is put into practice. It is for our benefit.  ____________________ Be careful whose advice you buy, but, be patient with those who supply it. Advice is a form of nostalgia, dispensing it is a way of fishing the past from the disposal, wiping it off, painting over the ugly parts and recycling it for more than it?s worth. |
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Just did mine today by coincidence and passed
35/35 for the theory and 56/75 for the hazard perception.
Was it a pile of boll*cks though I'd probably have to say not as I feel now that when I next go out on the bike its good practice for reinforcing the idea of continually scanning the road for possible hazards and looking far ahead whether you have to slow down etc. I do have to agree though that the clicks system can be a bit of a pain. Potentially pretty much everything on the road can be a hazard in one way or another so therefore I clicked whenever I saw stuff such as signs, bends you could'nt see around and steep hills as you go over them etc. Might be better if they based the clips around one clear hazard rather than lots of small ones.
I did find though that buying the theory test book and hazard dvd helped. Basically I did one test online where I passed the theory bit and then failed the second test online I did (i.e. practice tests). The dvd's definately worth it to get you scanning the road in the clips, even the cheap one I bought for a £10. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 20 years, 328 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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