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froggy128
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PostPosted: 13:55 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have a leather jacket but find the trousers restricted, so i settled for half textile half leather trousers and find them alot better!
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PostPosted: 14:02 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

You may find that different manufacturers will fit differently. Goto your local bike dealer (who sells clothing) and try a lot on, you'll soon get a feel for what is right. No point buying it if it isn't comfy, as it's usually a good sign it doesn't fit properly. Smile
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PostPosted: 14:02 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Leather will 'give,' sometimes a lot.

I bought my 2 piece Frank Thomas leathers last year and the chap at the shop convinced me to buy a size too small. I tried them on the bike and I nearly cut myself in half and couldn't breathe.

I bought them anyway.

They fitted perfectly after about 3 rides.

Now they are too big - bastards.

I have lost weight, but I recently wore them without my winter long johns and there was clear evidence of 'arse sag', they are also big on my waist and it's only the zip keeping them from sliding aroung my ankles.

I'm off to buy some summer textile this afternoon from Hein Gericke, who coincidetally sell Hiprotec armour that you can buy separately to fit to knees, elbows, shoulders, hips and back.

In the end you will have to decide if the leathers will be right for you, you can always lose weight. Wink
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PostPosted: 14:19 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

zephyrgirl wrote:

I have lost weight, but I recently wore them without my winter long johns and there was clear evidence of 'arse sag', they are also big on my waist and it's only the zip keeping them from sliding aroung my ankles.


*cough*

You'd have hit me if I suggested you were saggy round the arse.... Wink I'm glad we have space between the desks, to give me a running head start...oh you're closer to the door.. drat!
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PostPosted: 14:44 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

LH is right. Go and try some on and find some that feel comfortable, make sure you try them on and sit on the bike.
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PostPosted: 15:33 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Trying on leathers Reply with quote

A good bit of advce to try some on in a shop, but take a bottle of water with you Its hot work, also a couple of sandwich bags, stick them over you hands and feet to slide into the leathers with little or no effort. Razz

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PostPosted: 16:17 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Re: Trying on leathers Reply with quote

[quote="chrisb"]A good bit of advce to try some on in a shop, but take a bottle of water with you Its hot work, also a couple of sandwich bags, stick them over you hands and feet to slide into the leathers with little or no effort. Razz

Chris[/quote]

Excuse me for butting in but this sounds like a "top tip" straight out of a womans magazine. (our lass reads them out to me whilst im trying to read me MCN)

Surely the shop owner would get a bit miffed with loads of bread crumbs on their leathers? Laughing
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

my brother recently bought me a joe rocket blaster jacket (leather) for 299$. the first week I road with it , it was kinda uncomfortable but it finally has started to break in and feels form fitting. it has an option for leather pants to hook up to it , to make it a once piece aswell. and it does get hot somtimes. lets just say i hate stop lights. but it does have vents I can open up with zippers that make it feel like I have A/C going down the road. just takes time to get used to , but after reading all the mishap stories i always ride with my leathers
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Re: Leathers Reply with quote

Jammy-G wrote:
Tried on a friends 1 peice as hes selling it (hopefully buying), its nearly new but has been worn so the leather has been broken in a little. I found them VERY restrictive and found it a little difficult to ride the bike while wearing them. Is this normal and how long does it take to get used to them so they feel natural when riding?


If they are VERY restrictive then they don't fit - simple

a good one piece should be like a second skin and virtually unnoticable as you move about on the bike
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PostPosted: 18:55 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Re: Leathers Reply with quote

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If they are VERY restrictive then they don't fit - simple


That is crap! Rolling Eyes

If they are like a second skin when new they will become baggy and potentially dangerous very quickly. A tight restrictive fit from new (providing they don't cut off the circulation) will allow them to mould to the shape of the wearer and become a snug safe fit!
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PostPosted: 19:23 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

So when I'm buying a new pair, I should be looking for a very tight pair so they will be like you've been poured into them at the start then they break in to your shape?
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PostPosted: 19:31 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Re: Leathers Reply with quote

T.C wrote:

That is crap! Rolling Eyes

If they are like a second skin when new they will become baggy and potentially dangerous very quickly. A tight restrictive fit from new (providing they don't cut off the circulation) will allow them to mould to the shape of the wearer and become a snug safe fit!


Yeah but in this case TC, these leathers are not new and so will have been broken in by someone else. IMO you should get well fitting second hand leathers or slightly restrictive new leathers so that they bed in.

New is a better option. My lovely crowtrees have broken in after about four rides and now they feel lovely.
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PostPosted: 22:44 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Re: Leathers Reply with quote

T.C wrote:
Mr C wrote:


If they are VERY restrictive then they don't fit - simple


That is crap! Rolling Eyes

If they are like a second skin when new they will become baggy and potentially dangerous very quickly. A tight restrictive fit from new (providing they don't cut off the circulation) will allow them to mould to the shape of the wearer and become a snug safe fit!


note I highlighted "VERY restrictive"

and good quality leathers do not become baggy over time


cheap shit will but good quality Japanese or good old "made in England" won't

fuck knows I've owned and worn enough one piece suits over the years Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 22:57 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Re: Leathers Reply with quote

Mr C wrote:

cheap shit will but good quality Japanese or good old "made in England" won't

fuck knows I've owned and worn enough one piece suits over the years Rolling Eyes


Is that right? I was going to respond with a cryptic comment, but instead I will bow to your superior knowledge. Seems my research and all my trips to the factories in Pakistan, Japan, Italy, Germany and here in the UK have been for nothing as I have obviously learnt nothing over the years! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 23:42 - 22 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

you know it must be something they feed coppers

the maximum sarcasm pill Rolling Eyes


I have replaced leathers over the years because they have become tighter, not looser - due to my expanding size mybe but they don't give much - the FRank Thomas and Akito did (in all the wrong places) but the Kushitani and Crowtree (so far) have remained wonderfully stubborn - the Kushi's had to go as they were indeed a snug fit to begin with and just got tighter and tighter over about 3 years

you may have visited the factories TC but how much time have you actually spent in one-piece suits as opposed to heavier two pieces designed for more all year round use, because my experience definitely says that good leathers which are VERY tight to begin with ain't gonna get much better

good leathers which fit properly to begin with may get more comfortable but dependng on the quality they will not get "dangerously baggy" as you put it


who keeps 'em for more than 3 or 4 years anyway - you'd look a right tit in those dayglo leathers today now wouldn't you Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 00:29 - 23 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr C wrote:
you know it must be something they feed coppers

the maximum sarcasm pill Rolling Eyes


Firstly, I am a retired copper, and secondly, when I am sarcastic you will know about it Wink

You will be telling me next that 1 piece are safer on the road than a two piece! Rolling Eyes

I refuse to wear 1 piece on the road, but I do spend a lot of time in my 2 piece leathers, and unfortuantely I have about 400 leather suits in my garage all from various manufacturers which have been closely examined as a result of excessive wear and unfortunate crashes, some fatal.

Leather by its very nature will stretch and give, chances are you may have been lucky, or as you say because of your expanding waistline.

One day I may release the study report compiled on leathers (along with all other clothing, boots, gloves, helmets etc) which I have to admit was even as I wrote it, an eye opener for me in some aspects.
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PostPosted: 11:20 - 23 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm sure you've posted more detailed reasons before, and I've probably read and forgotten them, but got any links to an explanation of why one piece ar not as safe as two piece on the road?

My personal experience with a big-name two piece involved the connecting bit splitting as I rolled down the road. Luckily I was not going faster or 'thrown' onto the road as such.
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 23 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

had a 2 piece arlen ness as an early xmas present last october from my other half. Didn't need breaking in like most leathers, they were comfortable from the first time i put them on. Were only £200 which i think was pretty good value.
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PostPosted: 16:40 - 23 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, please enlighten us

why are two piece safer than one piece on the road



paramedics just love to cut them off anyway so it can't be that

(my missus is a paramedic)
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PostPosted: 16:45 - 23 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr C wrote:

paramedics just love to cut them off anyway so it can't be that

(my missus is a paramedic)


Funniest sights I've seen, working in the Medical Centre at Brnds Hatch. Go at a biker with a pair of 'tuff-kuts' and they suddenly make a full recovery and can get their leathers off all on heir own... Laughing
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