Ped dead need help reviving although wud prefer 2 blow it up

Dam_buster · Crazy Courier Joined: 22 Sep 2004 Karma :

ok , having trouble with the gayped, it made me walk it home from a mates house today , not good 15 minutes before work Mad

theres plenty of charge in the battery , but the starter motor whirs, the engine catches a little bit then loses it , and then it wont catch again!

any help about what i might need to look at,

going to take a look at the plug tomorrow,

thanks in advance for any help

JIM
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garry · Nova Slayer Joined: 09 Apr 2005 Karma :

sounds like a starter motor problem , rather than plug , try taking assembly apart + clean it all out .. ie side casing off , startermotor out , + properly clean , dont be tempted to use any oil on parts , as this will just attract more shit .. + block things up again ...

good luck

Kaben · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Karma :

Jim i swear that since the time you bought that ped, there hasnt been a single occasion where there hasnt been something not wrong with it!

Think you should sell it to some unsuspecting 'Ped boi and stick with your metro untill you can afford to buy a proper bike!
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Akiraprise · Nitrous Nuisance Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Karma :

sounds like a starter motor vendix (think thats the name problem) it's the part that throws the starter motor out to the motor and when the motor can run off it's own retracts, if this isn't catching properly then the starter motor will just whur.

this happened on my bike - its a pain!

Dam_buster · Crazy Courier Joined: 22 Sep 2004 Karma :

any ideas about how i can check this my self or shall i just chuck it down to a local garage?

get them 2 sort it, cos its getting harder and harder to start now lol

cant ride it! and i dont have a kickstart as it broke, cost about 130 to get it sorted!

JIM
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Dam_buster · Crazy Courier Joined: 22 Sep 2004 Karma :

UPDATE

ok me and binge have looked all over , changed airfilter and spark plug, and have noticed the carburettor is spitting back petrol/mixture. which clogs the filter out, now this isnt normal is it?

i think the carb needs to be cleaned properly as the idle doesnt go through the roof when the idle needle is screwed all the way in!

what are your guys thoughts? i have a 70 cylinder atm only been in there a lil while. the carb has been upjetted.

but should i buy a bigger carb as the one i have is spitting and crap Laughing

any help be great
JIM
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binge · Emo Kiddy Joined: 02 Jul 2004 Karma :

Ok Jim. You retard, you have told half a story here! Laughing

Right. Today I went to Jim's house. Changed the plug and filter on the scooter.
When the engine is cold, it will start up pretty easily, and will rev and drive fine until it really warms up fully.

Once the engine is hot, It idles for a few seconds, then cuts out, and becomes a pain in the rectum to start again. A jet of carb cleaner into the mouth of the carb and it fires up again, And aslong as you keep the throttle bliping, then it will stay running.

Now the Idle screw is in fully, so the tick over is ok, When the engine runs, Fuel is pissing back through the mouth of the carb and is filling up the K&N filter, when the filter is off, It just sprays out onto the floor.

The scooter has a 70cc Malossi bore kit and a upjetted carburettor.

Have used about 1/4 bottle of carb cleaner spraying it into the mouth of the carb while its running to try and clean it out a bit.

The scooter has the origional Reed and reed cage. Could it be the Reed block which is allowing the fuel to spit back through the inlet ?

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Dam_buster · Crazy Courier Joined: 22 Sep 2004 Karma :

BEN it doesnt even start when cold now! it got me down blue bell hill and home to safety and now has given up starts and dies almost straight away!

JIM
still pisses petrol mixture out the carb tho!

JIM
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Kye · Scooby Slapper Joined: 13 Sep 2004 Karma :

Sticky float, petrol overflowing at idle and flooding the engine, and also pissing back through into the air filter?
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graeme · Renault 5 Driver Joined: 02 Jan 2005 Karma :

what scooter have you got?

if it is a katana just bin it, thats wot my mate had to do Neutral

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Dam_buster · Crazy Courier Joined: 22 Sep 2004 Karma :

im not just gonna go crash on purpose!

thats just idiotic!

JIM
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Pat172 · Nitrous Nuisance Joined: 08 Apr 2005 Karma :

as Kye said

sticky / fucked float
fucked reeds
fucked automatic choke

i reckon 1 or all of the above
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DisabledRider · Nitrous Nuisance Joined: 09 Feb 2005 Karma :

Hold the startor button, when it starts to click then rev

binge · Emo Kiddy Joined: 02 Jul 2004 Karma :

Kaben · World Chat Champion Joined: 09 Mar 2005 Karma :

JIM.... SELL IT TO A PIKEY!
Just get rid of the fuc*ing thing!!!!!
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Pat172 · Nitrous Nuisance Joined: 08 Apr 2005 Karma :

Dam_buster · Crazy Courier Joined: 22 Sep 2004 Karma :

ah ok me and ben have taken the whole carb and inlet manifold appart to find that the carb float is not the problem that is fine!

the reed valves are mashed!

here spot the difference!

https://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y146/Dam_buster/reedvalves002.jpg

kinda mad that these got me from mine to bens house and back !

JIM
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binge · Emo Kiddy Joined: 02 Jul 2004 Karma :

Pettals dude! Wink

Its kinda mad that Laguna motorcycles told us you cant buy patternt reed petals on their own, You need to pay £40 for a whole reed block!

Ahh well, Scooter center or PM tunings. Hey Jim, Ill give you the number for PM tunings as I have it here in my Twist and wank mag.

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Dam_buster · Crazy Courier Joined: 22 Sep 2004 Karma :

well done pat!

lol and thank you ben for helping/showing me what i needed to do, and confirming your theory!

a Thumbs Up

to you both!

JIM
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binge · Emo Kiddy Joined: 02 Jul 2004 Karma :

It was fun.

We spent like an hour striping the carb and polishing it up, then I was like.

Hummm, You got that allen key, Ill take a look at your reed.

Boom boom!

Result: One SHAGGED reed petal! Cool

Get them ordered, Ill pop by and stick it all back together for you.

GET YOUR BATTERY ON CHARGE TOO! Because your carb is fed on pressureised system meaning its going to take some turning over to get it going! Laughing

Hail the gravity fed system like my speedfight! Dance!

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