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Come on whats the best bike guys?
R1
12%
 12%  [ 4 ]
R7
25%
 25%  [ 8 ]
R6
16%
 16%  [ 5 ]
CBR 1000
25%
 25%  [ 8 ]
CBR 900
3%
 3%  [ 1 ]
CBR 600
16%
 16%  [ 5 ]
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PostPosted: 22:41 - 24 Apr 2005    Post subject: Yamaha YZF Thundercat 600 (R6) Reply with quote

Welcome to the Thundercat (R6) forum. Myself am not a biker for anothe ryear yet. But my dad owns a Thundercat. I was just wondering if anyone here new were abouts you can get cheap racing legal exhauts from.
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PostPosted: 22:51 - 24 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello good bike your dad has by the way Laughing

You can get cheap race cans from ebay new, they are called VIPER cans and cost from £89 for the alloy oval can then a link pipe at another £15 and a baffle to make it more legal for £12 thats probably the cheapest you will find for brand new items other wise the best bet is to keep a look out on on Ebay as there are always cheap cans going o there. Oh and they don't neciserily have to be for one bike you could just buy the correct bore can from any bike and buy a link pipe for the bike you are fitting it to and hey presto.
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PostPosted: 22:54 - 24 Apr 2005    Post subject: Re: Yamaha YZF Thundercat 600 (R6) Reply with quote

First, the Thundercat is not a R6.

Second, best at what?

Have a look at ebay for cheap cans.
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 24 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Les Dennis Stylee"
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EEE EEE! Big X
Wrong bike dude, Thundercat is not an R6 although it's still a great bike.
I'm biased as I've owned 2 R1's now so guess what I voted for Very Happy
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PostPosted: 23:17 - 24 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, the CBR1000 is a later model of the CBR900.

The R7 is a very differnt bike to the rest.

As standard it came with a about the same power as a 600 of the time. However it came with what was considered to be a very good frame and had the possibility to tune it easily to lots of power. It was sold so that they could race it in World Superbikes.
Most will have been sold for racing.
Some were unofficialy modified with an r1 engine; all the power of a tuned 750cc engine with much better reliability.
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PostPosted: 23:25 - 24 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Welcome to the Thundercat (R6) forum


Huh? Confused
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PostPosted: 00:02 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that the R71 your talking about G?

I think only 1 or 2 R7's ended up in non racers hands. Most were sold to racers whos pedegree was judged suitable by Yamaha, a few ended up in private collections.

Out of all of those bikes the R7 is by far the fastest, best handleing and most desireable. It's also the one you have zero chance of every rideing and one you can couldsider yourself lucky to have seen.

I think the CBR1000 is the bike of choice out of the rest. It looks so good, sounds so nice and goes pretty decent too!
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PostPosted: 00:15 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, R71, sorry, thought I mentioned that bit.

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Out of all of those bikes the R7 is by far the fastest, best handleing and most desireable. It's also the one you have zero chance of every rideing and one you can couldsider yourself lucky to have seen.

The R7 definitely isn't the fastest by a long way.

As standard it comes in much better trim for the track. Not sure if that would translate to better handling on the road.

The latest r1 and cbr1000 are both very fast bikes I'm told.
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PostPosted: 00:33 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

The spec i've seen says:
140bhp
162kg

Means some SERIOUS speed! Shocked

But it is basically a road legal road legal factory race bike. I doubt any of them have the reliability to get futher than a few thousand miles Laughing

The R1/CBR are definatly better road bikes, but the R7 is *the* dream bike Drooling
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PostPosted: 00:42 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm pretty sure that's with some tuning.

Think I read that as standard it came 'restricted' to some degree. Only made just over a 100hp off the shelf. The idea being that racers could tune it how they wanted it to be tuned.

I suspect the 161kg weight was with race bodywork, can etc.


Compare that to a new GSXR1000 that has a (manufacturers) dry weight off 161kg with road body work. With just under 160 real-rwhp and it'd be a bit more 'interesting' that the r7 as far as riding goes I suspect Smile.
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PostPosted: 01:06 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Also, the CBR1000 is a later model of the CBR900


Well, the CBR1000RR is anyway...CBR1000F is more of a sports tourer...

Thundercat wrote:
I was just wondering if anyone here new were abouts you can get cheap racing legal exhauts from.


Do you mean, road-legal aftermarket ("race") cans, or a can that is legally homogulated for some racing standard?

If you mean the former, then it all depends on your budget...
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PostPosted: 01:07 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

For those numb nuts like myself this is an R7.

https://www.bikez.com/bike/19948/index.jpg
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PostPosted: 01:17 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaFrostyOne wrote:
The spec i've seen says:
140bhp
162kg

Means some SERIOUS speed! Shocked

But it is basically a road legal road legal factory race bike. I doubt any of them have the reliability to get futher than a few thousand miles Laughing

The R1/CBR are definatly better road bikes, but the R7 is *the* dream bike Drooling


My cousin is in BSB n rode a R7 i think i dont really pay much attention cos of im ignorant.... but it was for the virgin team Laughing

the R7 is deffinately my top pick out of that lot..... all the stupid power of a race bike yet on the road Rolling Eyes but i suppose for £23.5 K (i think that was the retail) it would have to be something else Exclamation

one was on ebay not so long back o how i wished i had won the lottery that week Cool Laughing
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PostPosted: 09:40 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

satans_BIG_helper wrote:

the R7 is deffinately my top pick out of that lot..... all the stupid power of a race bike yet on the road

Rolling Eyes

As I said, the stupid power of a race bike in this case was about the same power as a stock 600, but from a 750. So not that mental.
Of course it was itended to be tuned... but then people are getting 190hp out of new R1s these days, and that's just in club racing!
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

In this months BIKE magazine (one with the Orange County Choppers DVD on it) it has the YZF-Thundercat in the R6 timeline. Same engine, tuned differently, for more usable low down grunt.
So basically a detuned,slightely uglier R6 Razz no offense to owners Wink
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PostPosted: 11:31 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

dodsi wrote:
For those numb nuts like myself this is an R7.

https://www.bikez.com/bike/19948/index.jpg

Drooling
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kaben wrote:
Same engine, tuned differently, for more usable low down grunt.


Sorry to disagree but they don't even look the same:

Thundercat motor:
https://www.offwidth.co.uk/bike/cat/14-engine-out.jpg

R6 motor:
https://sportrider.com/bikes/146_0402_yama04_z.jpg

I suspect Yamaha threw a fair chunk of cash at their R&D department to make the R6 motor so I suspect they changed quite a few things inside it. The R6 motor is soooo much shorter due to the stacked gearbox as well as the top end looking different externally.
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

hawkeye wrote:
Kaben wrote:
Same engine, tuned differently, for more usable low down grunt.


Sorry to disagree but they don't even look the same:


I suspect Yamaha threw a fair chunk of cash at their R&D department to make the R6 motor so I suspect they changed quite a few things inside it. The R6 motor is soooo much shorter due to the stacked gearbox as well as the top end looking different externally.


The old thundercat engines went in the fazers didnt they, while the R6 as you said got a new engine, i think Question
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

im just goin by what BIKE magazine have said. But im sure newer R6 engines are very different
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PostPosted: 12:37 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

AFAIK, thats how it all went. The original Fazer 600s got 'Cat engines until 2004 when those engines no longer met emission regs so they used the cleaner R6 motor which was detuned for the job.
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

The R6 motor is probably a major development of the Thundercat (Fazer/FZR600) Engine, and probably owes some of its characteristics to it.

And as for this thread I'd have to go for the CBR1000RR. Smile
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PostPosted: 13:31 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kaben wrote:
In this months BIKE magazine (one with the Orange County Choppers DVD on it) it has the YZF-Thundercat in the R6 timeline. Same engine, tuned differently, for more usable low down grunt.
So basically a detuned,slightely uglier R6 Razz no offense to owners Wink


Actually mate its an FZR Wink

2005 stock R6
104bhp@12,900rpm
43lb.ft@12,100rpm

1990 FZR600
72bhp@10,100rpm
42lb.ft@8400rpm

Mine makes 84.5bhp Wink
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PostPosted: 14:25 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry but i fucking hate the R6, i think its way too bland on the road!

Not interested in what its like on the track id rather be on a gsxr, or kwak!!

R6 great handling but it just didnt have that omph i was expecting, just my view on it!
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know a bloke who has an R7 for the road.
Nice to have an exclusive bike.

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PostPosted: 14:45 - 25 Apr 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

woo wrote:
Sorry but i fucking hate the R6, i think its way too bland on the road!


Odd. I had a ZX6 J2 and dusty had a 99 r6 at the same time.

I would say the r6 was slightly less bland on the road... it definitely /felt/ faster, though in realitly was only very slightly quicker overall.
Definitely has more of a definited powerband than the other bikes similar of the time.

I believe the latest ones have been relatively sanitised a bit; but way beyoned my budgets Sad.
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