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numark1
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 04 May 2005    Post subject: Could I Have Been Caught Reply with quote

I went past a police man with a radar gun the other night (round 9:30) Anyway i was doing 50 in the 30 limit. I looked at him as i went passed and thought oooops. Anyway my dad said that it will be fine because with the guns they usually have a police car down the road to pull you over. He also said that there would be no proof if they sent me a NIP because i saw no flash for him to take a picture.

If i get a letter should i write back and ask proof to see the picture and calibration cert of the radar gun. It's pretty neg if i get caught and i have to take the points because i only passed on the 12th of May last year so i still have another year until i can get my 12point license.
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PostPosted: 16:30 - 04 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't think they take any physical evidence i.e a photo, I was thinking about this earlier.

So if they don't stop you at the time, you should be ok.

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PostPosted: 16:37 - 04 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

If he wrote down your numberplate then you may be in trouble.

What are you doing 30 in a 50 for anyway??? YOu could have killed a kitten! Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 16:41 - 04 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^ That's what i thought, could have written my plate down. When i looked at him he talked something into his radio. Surely there is no proof though. I could have said my dad rode it that day, which he actually did to check the brakes were ok.
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PostPosted: 17:08 - 04 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I went through a traffic light with the little black camera on the top, hope that aint no camera Confused
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PostPosted: 17:11 - 04 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not.

Traffic light cameras are yellow, look just like anorexic speed cameras.

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PostPosted: 17:12 - 04 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I ran a red light straight a through a busy junction a while ago because I was too busy trying to work out what the hell the traffic streams were doing in front of me. I was lucky it was clear when I went pelting through at 50 odd. There's a little black box on the light I ran, I didn't get a ticket for it.
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 04 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Red light cameras do not have to be covered in yellow. They look like a normal gatso but are thinner in width at the top, like the digital ones.
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PostPosted: 18:46 - 04 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

To answer the original post, You got be looking at 3 pts and a fine. There is no need for the coppers to pull you over, flash you or anything else. They have witnessed you commiting a 'crime' and may well procecute.

If you get an NIP through the post, hold your hands up, just pay it and be more careful in future.

Re-doing your test is not fun, bear in mind its not just the practical, its the whole lot including theory test.

Fingers crossed for ya pal Smile
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PostPosted: 20:19 - 04 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

bod wrote:
I went through a traffic light with the little black camera on the top, hope that aint no camera Confused


All that does is sense if any traffic is stood at the lights or approaching them to control the signals.
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 04 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

the little box on the top is a sensor.if say at three in the morning you approach the lights and they are on red if you flash your lights they change to green quicker if nothing is at the other lights
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 04 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been through a fair few red lights as of late.

They seem to have the same timing as lights in 30 limits (eg go amber for a second) at 60mph you can stop in good weather conditions. If its damp or your doing a generous 60 then you have to crack the throttle open and hope to get through before they go red. It's really starting to worry me now.
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PostPosted: 21:38 - 04 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaFrostyOne wrote:
If its damp or your doing a generous 60 then you have to crack the throttle open and hope to get through before they go red.


You *could* slow down a bit to anticipate the lights changing... Neutral
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PostPosted: 21:43 - 04 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

HAHAHA! thats a good one! Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:58 - 04 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

When I was working in Warrington last summer I used to commute along the East Lancs Road - it's a proper dual carriageway.... with traffic light junctions.
It's always a bit jittery belting up to a junction knowing that the lights could be about to change, especially as a lot of the junctions have red light cameras on them Shocked
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PostPosted: 22:20 - 04 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

bash wrote:
the little box on the top is a sensor.if say at three in the morning you approach the lights and they are on red if you flash your lights they change to green quicker if nothing is at the other lights
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Appologies but thats just an urban legend Smile

The little box on top of a traffic signal pole is a detector but it only works by picking up your car or bike and registering a demand for the lights to change.

On the plus side, its not a red light camera.

A red light camera has to be on a seperate pole and has been said, looks like a squashed gatso.



As for the original speeding query. They dont have to stop you providing they have an approved speed reading and they notify you of their intent to prosecute within 14 days of the offence. Of course the letter can be arrive after the 14 days providing it was posted within the period. A policemans word that he saw your bike being ridden at XX miles per hour at such and such a place is all the proof they need.

If it arrives and all is correct you could try https://www.pepipoo.com/ for more advice
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 04 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think from memory that ambulances in america can flash a strobe at the lights and change them
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PostPosted: 23:22 - 04 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice one thanks for your help. Mind you, I was on the M60 the other week and was doing nearly a ton and saw a white camera on the side of a gantry, nothing connected to it they everywhere tho.
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PostPosted: 00:15 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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i think from memory that ambulances in america can flash a strobe at the lights and change them


We have that over here too, but by all accounts it doesn't work too well. Apparantly the lights have to finish their current cycle before they will change, so it's better for the ambulance to chuck on its sirens and go through the red light anyway.
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PostPosted: 00:43 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

All the british, traffic signals priority systems in use currently rely on GPS+Radio. Its effective, reliable and is nigh on impossible for an unauthorised vehicle to use it.

And yes, it does have limitations with cycles and delays. Shorter delays than would be had by a normal vehicle but delays none the less. Hence why, as you say, emergency vehicles are better to go on Blues and Twos and why they rarely have it fitted.

It is normally used for buses though so bus lanes get priority over normally traffic. It reduces delays to buses when its used but without increasing delays to cars to a critical level (usually) Smile
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PostPosted: 00:47 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would that be the reason behind some of the ludicrously short periods of time that the green is on on busy junctions? We've probably all had the all too common experience of being a few cars back from the front of the queue, the lights going green, and turning red again just as we get to the junction, with only about 3 cars actually getting out of the junction.

There does often seem to be buses around when that happens.
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PostPosted: 11:48 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

DaFrostyOne wrote:
Been through a fair few red lights as of late.

They seem to have the same timing as lights in 30 limits (eg go amber for a second) at 60mph you can stop in good weather conditions. If its damp or your doing a generous 60 then you have to crack the throttle open and hope to get through before they go red. It's really starting to worry me now.

I got 3 points and a £60 fine for that last year. 60mph road, with lights just over the crest of a hill.
As i went over the hill, lights on green. I go down the hill towards them, and just as i get to "critical distance" they go orange. By critical distance I mean the point at which you're not sure if you can stop before the white line, and you're not sure if you'll make it through on amber.
I decided to not risk a maniac braking manouver, so opened it up. Probably crossed the line at about 75/80mph. As i touched the line, lights went red ... flash - flash.
Sooo angry.

When the letter came through the post, it said I was doing 70mph (speedo out or generous camera?) and that the lights had been red for 0.1 seconds. Pedantic bastards!!

As for your copper with a radar gun - you're fine mate. And even if you're not, they only have 14 days to get the NIP to you, afterwhich they can't prosectute I don't think.
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PostPosted: 12:33 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kris wrote:
If he wrote down your numberplate then you may be in trouble.

What are you doing 30 in a 50 for anyway??? YOu could have killed a kitten! Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad


errr sorry mate it's 50 in a 30 Wink
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 05 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've not got much sympathy if you got caught jumping the lights, if the camera had time to falsh you then you had time to stop. What would you have done if there was a car coming out already?

I wish more of the traffic light cameras flashed a few more cars who jump the lights. The is one in Streatham I watch whilst I wait nearly everyday, cars jump the lights most cycles and I've only seen it go off a couple of times.

I was actually pleased to see a copper standing at the junction last Summer radioing numberplates up the road to where they were stopping cars that had jumped the lights. IMHO jumping the lights is potentially far, far more dangerous than speeding...
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