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PostPosted: 09:38 - 16 May 2005    Post subject: Read this, and I was shocked. Reply with quote

This was in my local paper the other day, wasn't one of us lot was it? Razz

A MOTHER has told how she was chased by an enraged motorcyclist while driving with her family.
Mother-of-six Donna Chambers, 33, was pursued for seven miles in her Vauxhall Zafira with the rider kicking and spitting at the car before she was forced to pull over and her passengers were attacked.
Mrs Chambers, of Stubbington, said: 'It was terrifying. I thought they were going to smash the windows in.
'He banged and scraped the bike against my car. And the spitting was so disgusting and repulsive.'
The drama had begun after angry gestures were exchanged when the motorcyclist refused to let Mrs Chambers on to the A27 from Eastern Road in Portsmouth.
14 May 2005
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PostPosted: 09:43 - 16 May 2005    Post subject: Re: Read this, and I was shocked. Reply with quote

MonkReadusuk wrote:
when the motorcyclist refused to let Mrs Chambers on to the A27 from Eastern Road in Portsmouth.


ie she cut him up pretty badly I imagine. Cos we bikes take up so much room on the carriageway don't we! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 09:48 - 16 May 2005    Post subject: Re: Read this, and I was shocked. Reply with quote

MonkReadusuk wrote:
Mother-of-six...


Sorry, but I immediately get a certain stereotype in my head.

MonkReadusuk wrote:
with the rider kicking and spitting at the car before she was forced to pull over


He was chasing her on his bike (wearing a helmet) and spitting at the car was he? Confused
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PostPosted: 09:50 - 16 May 2005    Post subject: Re: Read this, and I was shocked. Reply with quote

MonkReadusuk wrote:

The drama had begun after angry gestures were exchanged when the motorcyclist refused to let Mrs Chambers on to the A27 from Eastern Road in Portsmouth.


So yeah she cut him up, and then gave rude gestures back to him. Anyone would flip there lid at that I am sure!
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PostPosted: 09:52 - 16 May 2005    Post subject: Re: Read this, and I was shocked. Reply with quote

Silver wrote:

He was chasing her on his bike (wearing a helmet) and spitting at the car was he? Confused


Not to mention if your travelling at speed, the spit would come straight back in your own face!
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PostPosted: 10:33 - 16 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mother of Six at 33 Shocked Fucking 'ell!! Laughing

PMSL @ Spitting with a helmet on!!!

Ever sneezed with your helmet on Sick Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: 10:43 - 16 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

1) If you're on even a vaguely decent machine, you do not need to chase a Vauxhall Zafira. Laughing

2) She's a mother of six. So what? That doesn't mean she had six kids in the back and doesn't mean she's any more vulnerable.

3)Kicking fine, but spitting in a full face helmet at speed? Laughing

4) She was forced to pull over and her passengers were attacked. Yet there's no mention of the police in the slightest. Dunno how you go about forcing someone to pull over with a bike. Confused

5) Banging and scraping the bike against the car? You'd have to be a lunatic to try that. You'd do more damage to your bike than you would to the car, and you'd not be completely unlikely to lose control.

6)He refused to let her onto the road? More like he had right of way and she pulled out on him. Rolling Eyes

The article is a load of bollocks quite frankly.
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PostPosted: 11:08 - 16 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

which local paper????



I can see some letters to the editor asking for clarification of how he can bang and scrape while riding (and not fall off) and how you can spit wearing a helmet and riding at ANY speed without getting a mucky face..

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PostPosted: 11:11 - 16 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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'He banged and scraped the bike against my car


he must of been really pissed off to damage his bike against her car, i cant help but feel there is another part to this story....

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PostPosted: 11:12 - 16 May 2005    Post subject: Re: Read this, and I was shocked. Reply with quote

MonkReadusuk wrote:
A MOTHER has told how she was chased by an enraged motorcyclist while driving with her family.


Oh right cos she said so, it must be all true and entirely accurate. Rolling Eyes

I don't believe any bikers would do all that, unless they had a death wish on themselves. Sounds entirely biased, and of course the biker's view was not heard.

Sounds like a classic dopey mum. Of course this could all have ended up in a low speed, town tussle but the biker must’ve been pretty annoyed at something she did.


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PostPosted: 11:13 - 16 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone ever tried to spit chewing gum out over either the top of the chin guard or underneath it?
I can't do it even when I'm standing still and pushing my lid up, let alone at speed on a dually with no hand to help!
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PostPosted: 11:19 - 16 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

FYI article available on www.portsmouthtoday.co.uk

Text is as quoted in first post.
People could always send a letter to the editor - click here.

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PostPosted: 11:20 - 16 May 2005    Post subject: Re: Read this, and I was shocked. Reply with quote

MonkReadusuk wrote:

The drama had begun after angry gestures were exchanged when the motorcyclist refused to let Mrs Chambers on to the A27 from Eastern Road in Portsmouth.
14 May 2005


O right, is that what she calls it? The law says you give way to traffic ON the carriageway, not expect them to move over for you. Middle Finger

If they let you on it's because they are courteous, and more importantly have enough room to maneuver safely round the surrounding traffic on the carriageway to create a gap for you.

Thick as shit I should imagine.
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PostPosted: 11:31 - 16 May 2005    Post subject: Re: Read this, and I was shocked. Reply with quote

Silver wrote:

He was chasing her on his bike (wearing a helmet) and spitting at the car was he? Confused


Cruiser? open face lid?
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PostPosted: 11:31 - 16 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would be willing to bet she struck the bike pushing into the road causing damage to the cur and bike and used the “mad bad biker” bit as a cover for her crap driving.

As for the rest of the stories it just doesn’t add up I can see a biker kicking out at a car that’s just hit them but a bike forcing a car to pull over I just don’t buy it.

With so much of the story so unbelievable I really doubt there was a physical assault probably more a vigorous exchange of words and no more and if it did come to blows my betting is on the woman’s “passenger” striking out first as the biker would want to belt the driver not the passenger unless provoked.
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PostPosted: 11:31 - 16 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just another stupid ass article written by somebody with all the journalistic integrity of a cabbage..

Papers love writing storys saying bikers are evil, if it had been a chav in a saxo it wouldn't have warranted a mention, not to mention the fact there a fairly good chance she almost killed this guy for him to get so angry he'd need to cover himself in flem, flail his legs about and ride his bike at the ragged limit to drive it into the side of the vauxhall, all without falling off, very clever!

Yep i think it deserves a Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 11:39 - 16 May 2005    Post subject: Re: Read this, and I was shocked. Reply with quote

BlueNinja wrote:
Cruiser? open face lid?


Have you tried it? He'd would have had to get in front of the car and start trying the aim his spit up in the air! Laughing
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PostPosted: 12:07 - 16 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is it not about time women drivers were banned during rush hours? Wink

I wonder how many people on here who have had an accident that wasn't their fault was due to a woman driver?

I know there are loads of proper women drivers, but highlighted tarts with kids in the back give you a bad name.
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PostPosted: 12:08 - 16 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The drama had begun after angry gestures were exchanged when the motorcyclist refused to let Mrs Chambers on to the A27 from Eastern Road in Portsmouth.


How exactly do you 'refuse to let' someone onto an A road? Did the guy erect a rudimentary roadblock using his bike and his body? Surely any such 'refusal' would be over in under a second as he flashed past the slip road?

Sounds more like she came charging down the slip road at 70mph +, and the biker got slightly miffed when she cut him up at speed.

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PostPosted: 13:46 - 16 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I wrote to the Paper asking if they could clarify things a bit more. All I got in reply was...

Quote:
Mr Read,

Thank you for your email.

The information in the article is from the eyewitness account of the Donna
Chambers, who was driving the car.

Regards,

Simon Pluckrose, assistant news editor, The News


No luck there then Sad
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PostPosted: 13:48 - 16 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

the following has been sent to the press complaints commission AND the editor of the paper.

"url to story is here:
https://www.portsmouthtoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=680&ArticleID=1027261
or a shortened link here if the above doesn't work properly:
https://tinyurl.com/cylfn

This article appears to be seriously innaccurate, and perpetuating a stereotype of the "evil biker" myth based on the hear-say of a single individual.

There are a number of points on which I would ask for clarification and expansion before allowing this article to further tarnish the reputation of motorcyclists.

According to the article, the incident arose after the "motorcyclist refused to let Mrs Chambers on to the A27 from Eastern Road in Portsmouth." From my understanding of the Highway code, it is the responsibility of traffic joining the road to ensure it is safe to do so. There is no onus on the traffic on the road to "allow" them to join.

Assuming the rider was wearing a full-face helmet, as the majority do, I find it hard to believe that he could have been "spitting" at her or her vehicle. Had the helmet been of the "open faced" variety, spitting while travelling on a motorcycle is impossible unless you like feeling your own spittal hitting you in your face.

Apparently "he banged and scraped the bike against [her] car" To do this on a moving motorcycle is praticlly impossible to do without losing control of the vehicle.

I do not doubt that motorists of all kinds suffer road rage, but this story perpetuates a stereotype that the world of motorcycling is trying to throw off.

I understand some of the incident (spitting and scraping) may have occurred after the vehicles had been stopped, but this was not explained in the article, and as such suggests the actions took place while moving. In doing so, it further "sensationalises" the incident, and increases an unreasonable and irrational fear of motorcyclists in the public eye.

With regards

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PostPosted: 13:53 - 16 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would also have mentioned it is solely based on one eye witness with by no stretch of the imagination could be called impartial.
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PostPosted: 13:53 - 16 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

More likely that he was kicking and scraping the side of the car in panic as she tried to run the biker off the road! No wonder the biker wanted to have a word when she stopped.

And also notice how she says "they" when talking about the biker...

Was there more than one? Was there a pillion? Was it some stupid mad kids on a scooter twatting about with no helmets on? What type of road is it? Why did the rider not let her onto the road.

This has to be one of the worst articles I've ever read. Shoddy journalism at its best!

Oh, and the junction between Eastern Road and the A27, according to my Autoroute, is a bloody roundabout!!!
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 16 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

lol

why??

what are the chances of this happening??
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PostPosted: 14:35 - 16 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I just say as someone who was in a similar situation to the biker mentioned in the article that whatever happens it's not worth retailiating.

I was filtering past stationery traffic when someone pushed their way in from a side road, I suggest politely that she might have waited so she then told me to f*ck off, I lost my temper kicked her car and 3 weeks later was arrested for a suspected road rage incident. Luckily I got off as there were no witnesses, but I learnt a lesson and now just try and avoid any retaliation. I expect the woman in the article was my womans hlaf sister!
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