Honda NSR 125 RR - HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[raps]

Hi, Ive just bought an NSR 125 (2002 model - 2nd hand), and the **** thing did not come with a manual. Can anyone pls help with how I go about checking the 2 stoke oil, and what tools I may need to use to check it.

Also it is common for these bikes not to start first time. I find myself standing around all geared up to go and the bike will not start. When it does it fine, but it may take me time sitting around pressing the electric start and pulling the throttle for some time.

Finally (almost done) - when the petrol is switced ON, what kind of warning does the bike give to say that it is running outa petrol??? (stupid question, buts its my 1st bike and no manual to help me!!!). I was driving along and the bike just cut off (died on me). I put the petrol switch to RESERVE and after a few mins it started again. Was that my bike telling me that its outta petrol? or something else?

Before I go, pls dont laugh, does this bike need Unleaded petrol or the old 4 star, im pretty sure its dont need diesel.

Final final time, anyone know how i can go about getting my hands on (even if i have to buy) a manual for this bike.

Thanks for sharing the wealth of knowledge u guys have.

Raps

[Scotty]

Congrats on the purchase.

One my model NSR. (old type)
Theres an oil light that turns on when the oil is about 1/4 left or something like that.
but it does come on if its fairly low and i go up a hill nice and quick...

I done know if its the same on the newer NSRs but the 2 stroke oil is under the seat.
Just make sure you never run empty...other wise your bike will not run point. (you dont need any special tools to top this up)

I dont know why the bike wont start for you first time, maybe its just the spark...or are you putting the choke on?

Well the way i know how much petrol i have is using the trip distance, i reset it everytime i go to the petrol station and get roughly 160khm to a tank.
other than that if it does run out you just have to switch to reserve (BUT REMEMBER TO TURN IT BACK ONCE YOU FILL UP )

its normal for the bike to not run stairght away after you switch to reserve.
i usually end up rolling with the clutch in waiting for fuel to get down to the carb.
then i just pull the clutch back out so it spins the engine over and hey presto, the bike fires up.

Its needs UNLEADED PETROL

as for manuals a few people have them on there sites here, which are online manuals...
dunno if theres one floating about for the new bike.
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Regards
Scott

[G]

Are you looking for a workshop manual or just the handbook that comes with the bike?
I have the workshop manual for the older NSRs (not on my site at the mo 'cos I got some new webspace) ... which I can stick up if you need it.
There are no Haynes/Clymer manuals available so if you want a workshop manual you'll have to get a factory one.

IF I remember the oil is under the petrol tank on the newer models... just need an Alan key (6mm?) to get the tank off I believe.

>>When it does it fine, but it may take me time sitting around pressing the electric start and pulling the throttle for some time. <<
Have you got the choke on?
Also many bike start better if you don't rev them.


>>I put the petrol switch to RESERVE and after a few mins it started again. Was that my bike telling me that its outta petrol? or something else? <<
Yep ... that's the warning that it's out of petrol... the engine dies

[kevo]

Hi Raps,

Firstly, undue the seat, you will find a lock towards the back, insert key, turn and pull the level. The seat should then come away.

To the right of the fuel tank at the front you will see an allen bolt. This holds the tank in place. You should have an allen key in the toolkit. Undo this allen bolt and slide it out carefully, (Avoid scratching the tank).

The tank can then lift from the front, you will find a rod to rest the tank on. The 2stroke tank is on the right hand side, should have a black screw cap with a rubber seal underneath. Remove the cap and seal and fill with 2 stroke oil. The best oil is Castrol TTS , or Castrol Scooting if that's all you can find.

Replace everything. To replace the seat, you don't need the key, just position the seat and push down to the rear. You should hear a distinct clunk as the seat locks.

It's common for them to not start first time , unless you use the bike daily. Use the choke if needed to start the bike but don't leave the choke on. Sequence I used was , Choke on , Check it's not in Gear, Startup, Choke off after a couple of minutes and keeps the revs up at 2k until the bike's warmed up.

Finally (almost done) - when the petrol is switced ON, what kind of warning does the bike give to say that it is running outa petrol??? (stupid question, buts its my 1st bike and no manual to help me!!!). I was driving along and the bike just cut off (died on me). I put the petrol switch to RESERVE and after a few mins it started again. Was that my bike telling me that its outta petrol? or something else?

The warning you get is it stops Yes it's telling you to use reserve. Don't forget to switch it back when you fillup or you'll completely run out.

You should get around 110 miles to a full tank before it hits reserve as an average. Always fill up completely and reset your trip counter. That way you also know when you low.

Another good and simple method is whilst on the bike rattle it from side to side and look in the tank to see how much you have left!

Definately Unleaded, 4 Star and Diesel especially are a NO NO.

Best place for a manual would be to buy the Haynes one , or download the manual from the Internet.

Regards,
Kevin.

[raps]

Ah thanks lads, i think my oil tank is under the petrol tank, so Ill follow the instructions you have given me to top this up.

The manual im after is not the workshop type of book with all the diagrams of the parts of the bike, but instead the manual which lets me know how to carry out daily routine checks etc, such as, tightening the chain, tyre pressures etc.

I'll remember not to have the choak on when starting the bike. I may have done this and so it did not start.

And i think your spot on with the petrol running out. I checked now and the tank is near empty. Better get to a petrol station quick fast.

Anyways thanks for all your help. I know who to turn to in the future.

Cheers and Thanks
Raps

[G]

>>I'll remember not to have the choak on when starting the bike. I may have done this and so it did not start. <<

No, no... It's choke *on*, then off when it's warmed up... but different bikes like differnet amounts of choke.

[Phoenix]

raps, the choke is for starting the bike when the engine is cold. If it wont start with the choke OFF then flick it ON and try again. Just remember to turn the choke off before you ride away.

[Keith]

[Ste]

good choice of bike mate

If you bought new, you should have a manual. www.nsr125.com and go to the workshop for mechanical stuff

As above for filling up the oil. I reckon you should get about 250-300miles out of a tank, I try and do mine every 100miles.

A tank of petrol will give you about 100+ miles before needing the reserve.

If its having trouble starting, turn the fuel tap off when you stop the bike, and then back on again once it has started. it can flood the engine of its own accord if you leave it on

enjoy the bike

and where you from?

[G]

[raps]

This bike is 2nd hand from a dealership (not Honda themselves, but an approved one).

Ok, so choak on when starting it and then gradually off as the bike warms up. I get that now. When I totally screw it up, ill come back to you for more help G

Erm, I will also try to turn the petrol off over night, so that it dont flood the engine. And turn on in the morning.

The bike has a custom paint job (Repsol), i wont say its unique, lets just say i aint seen another NSR 125 in these colours.

Anyone know of any good rides going on. Im from West London (Near Heathrow), so if one needs another guy to ride with, let us know

Thanks Again
Raps

[raps]

G, the bike is an import, it had done like 120km b4 i got it. Looking at the Log book, its been sitting around since July this year at the dealers

Are alrams a god idea on these bikes or BAD ideas. Considering its a small bike?

Raps

[G]

IMHO Alarms are only worth it if you get one that gets you cheaper insurance. An imobaliser might be more practical use though.

There's a few of us from around that sort of area (I'm Reading, but others are closer)....in summer we all meet up at Box Hill on Sundays.

[andrew]

An alarm on any bike is a good idea.

[G]

Most people sem to pay little attention to an alarm going of now-a-days, and an alarm that regularly goes off might even be worse because people ignore it as a matter of course.

An immobaliser should at least deter a casual theif.. but then again so might an alarm as well.

[raps]

G, Ive heard of Box Hill, where abouts is that???

Thanks Andrew, i have put an alarm on my bike. But am afraid that one day i might find my bike wont start cos the alarm has draoined my battery. It happened to me the very first time i rode it (last night).

Last night wasn't a problem cos the dealer got the charger out and charged the battery for me (although he told me that doing that was not a good idea if i wanted to keep that battery for long).

Erm, any idea how long these small batteries last, considering im using and alarm/imobiliser too? The rough cost to replce would be nice too

One day I will know all these little things for myself and help other poor sods out when they find themselves walking into brick walls

Cheers Raps

[raps]

just realised i had not actually registered, and was sending messages as a guest. So anyways, ive just registered and should be able to put a pic of my bike. Now all i need is a camera, help anyway, lol

[G]

Box hill's near Dorking. The NSR is easy to bump start (have a search for 'bump start' on here and you should find some tips. It's probably worth getting a bit more used to your bike before you try it though.

[Scotty]

i had to bump start the bike last night at the meet,
and to be honest i didnt really have to jog with it to do it.
after all its only a 125 single....
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Regards
Scott

[G]

If it's warmed up I can bump start my NSR without moving my feet sometimes... but not the sort of thing you want to be messing with until you're confident pushing it around at a walking pace.

[TJ NSR]

Raps you bought the bike from Rex Judd, didnt you....


check ur forks...

enough said and check for dents in frame....

make sure uve had a hpi on the bike because Rex Judd like to fuk ppl up! esp with Writen off Imports!!!

Trust me im in the business!

btw its definately an import... and ask ur salesman for a handbook, he should give u one!!!

ps im suprised they gave u a logbook,, but u probably didnt get the spare key??

tj

btw is a rossi paint on the rear and an old repsol on the main! nice

[DUG]

same as TJ said rex judd are a bunch off money grabbing twats.once they have got ur dosh they aint wantin nothin more to do with ya...say no more
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[Anthony]

What part of West London you from, there are a few people in the forum from around that area?

[raps]

TJ,

Wow, thats a rude awakening, Yeh I bought it from Rex Judd. Erm, thats a bad move I take it. Should I be overly worried now?

He told me that some come with handbooks and some dont. And in my case it didnt come with one. Am i legally allowed to make a fuss and demand a handbook from them?

It did come with log book. It had only done 120km when i bought it. Now im wondering if it maybe was clocked back.

Your right about dents in the frame, well not dents in my case, more like scratches. I have not checked under the fairings for anything else. Can you please suggest something, some checks I could do to see if its buggered.

The only reason why i bought it was beacuse it was cheaper than the Uk bikes and the paint job looked decent.

Any more advice you could give TJ, I would greatly appreciate.

Anthony, im from Heathrow area.

Thanks Guys

Raps

[Zimma]

So i take it thats an import then poor you, it will never go more than 85 unfortunatly there is a mystery surrounding the de-restriction of imports, and noone has worked it out yet
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-Zimma