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stinkwheel
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PostPosted: 16:30 - 22 May 2005    Post subject: run in with the law Reply with quote

Off for a rideout today on the A66 between Keswick and Penrith. Came up behind a line of maybe five cars following a trailer, the road opened out enough for me to get past. Quick wait, no-one offering to pull out so I wound the bike up and made a comfortable overtake.

Now by the time I was past them I was going fairly fast, just coasted along for a bit then slowed back down to the the speed limit.

Further along the road, I was on a section of dual carriageway when a citroen saxo I had overtaken earlier pulls alongside me. When I looked round there was a bloke in jeans and a t-shirt waving a police warrant card at me. I just waved at him.

Now, I am going to make no effort to justify my riding other than to say that visibility was good, I was riding well within my limits and at no point did I cause any other drivers to alter their speed or course. For this policeman to have caught up with me, he must have been doing a sustained speed in excess of the limit for quite some time.

Is it any more justifiable for an off-duty policeman in his own car to chase after a speeding motorcyclist in order to flash his warrant card, when there is no possability of him taking any enforcement action, than for the motorcyclist to have been speeding in the first place?

Even had he wanted me to stop to 'have a word' I wouldn't have done. I feel remarkably disinclined to stop for an unmarked vehicle containing a person wearing casual clothes just because he has held a plastic card against his side window when travelling at 70mph, and as far as I am aware, I don't have to.
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PostPosted: 16:33 - 22 May 2005    Post subject: Re: run in with the law Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
When I looked round there was a bloke in jeans and a t-shirt waving a police warrant card at me. I just waved at him.


Laughing Quality
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PostPosted: 16:53 - 22 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing Laughing Laughing "i just waved back"
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PostPosted: 17:07 - 22 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd have got in his way and stuck rigidly to a speed well within that of the limit (20mph? Laughing ) to show him what a careful rider you are Wink
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PostPosted: 17:10 - 22 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Laughing

I would have give him the bird. Middle Finger Lets face it any pr1ck in a car could wake fake ID at people. What a w@nker. Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:29 - 22 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think some people really don't like being overtaken by bikes. ie he was stuck in the queue of cars, and didn't like the fact that you could just wizz past them all.



I once pulled over in a layby after someone pulled along side me on a dual carriageway and pointed at me, as I thought he was telling me something was wrong with the bike. Infact I think he must have been "telling me off" for overtaking a fair sized line of cars stopped at the lights.

I'd gone past them all in the right-turn lane and since the lights changed as I got to the front I gave it a handfull then moved over to the straight-ahead lanes to the left. I didn't cut anyone up and gave a good shoulder check to make sure I was safely ahead of the cars i'd passed. I'm not sure on the legality of this but it was perfectly safe manouvre I do whenever such a situation occurs. I was still accelerating when this bloke in a big old jag starts overtaking me - I decided that since it was a dual carriageway and I'd been accelerating at a constant rate since the lights I had no obligation to roll off the throttle to let him pass, so I didn't. He slowly crept past me waving his finger at me as he did. What a cunt!

I was already up to NSL as he started passin me so he could hardly gripe about breaking traffic laws Rolling Eyes I'd have given him the wanker sign had I known then he wasn't actually warning me about something wrong with the bike
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 22 May 2005    Post subject: Re: run in with the law Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
Off for a rideout today on the A66 between Keswick and Penrith.


do you live up that way then ??? As i live in Egremont and occasionally go for a ride along the a66 cos its pretty nice scenery
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 22 May 2005    Post subject: Re: run in with the law Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
I feel remarkably disinclined to stop for an unmarked vehicle containing a person wearing casual clothes just because he has held a plastic card against his side window when travelling at 70mph, and as far as I am aware, I don't have to.


Never stop for someone if you really don't think they are the police.
Legally you have to stop for a policeman in uniform. If they are a plain can but are in uniform then you should stop.

Bit of a tosser really if he is trying to have a go when off duty.
He would have been in deep shit if he caused you to crash.

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PostPosted: 18:21 - 22 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

l,ve been stoped by an off duty police man before and had a telling off, the only reason l did stop because the cunt jumped out in the middle of the road waving his badge.


l,ve had the odd pratt at a front of a que beeping his horn like mad after l,ve filtered past, l just sit there and inorg them.
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 22 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

its best when u over take a car and you have L plates on your bike lol
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PostPosted: 21:08 - 22 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

dransy wrote:
its best when u over take a car and you have L plates on your bike lol



it sure is, the look on thier face..........priceless!!!
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 22 May 2005    Post subject: Re: run in with the law Reply with quote

satans_BIG_helper wrote:

do you live up that way then ??? As i live in Egremont and occasionally go for a ride along the a66 cos its pretty nice scenery


Yep, live at Silloth. I occasionally go down that way but not often as I can't be arsed sitting behind all the tourists, was down in Keswick to get some camping stuff today hence A66 on the way home.

I was at the Iron Ore rally in Egremont last year on my Jawa. It won best rat, I was the one with the huge beard wearing long shorts and a hawaian shirt Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 21:52 - 22 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

tatters wrote:
l,ve been stoped by an off duty police man before and had a telling off


Hi

HAd something similar when a car decided to close the gap I was overtaking into (and you can imagine how close they decided to drive to the lorry in front when there was not space to fit a bike into at 40mph).

Personally I am not certain he was a copper. Should have ridden to the police station and reported him for impersonating a police officer.

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PostPosted: 22:03 - 22 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was out round that way too today, although only made it as far as the roads round derwentwater and back because my bird was badgering for a trip to caspian!

Although I had a minor brush with the law, I drove past that little school thing after bassenthwaite bypass and there was two bikes and a police biker in the car park, I just waved as i flew past somewhere between 70 and 90!

Lovely day today, reet round the lakes!
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 22 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

dransy wrote:
its best when u over take a car and you have L plates on your bike lol


Thats soo true, on my CG125, it realy used to p***** certain people off, mainly middle age boring types in Saloons.
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PostPosted: 23:40 - 22 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

dransy wrote:
its best when u over take a car and you have L plates on your bike lol


The other day i was overtaking a van and being 16 on a 50 i had L plates, and i think he noticed them because he started to speed up, but he just couldnt out rum me! lol

was very humerous imo
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PostPosted: 00:08 - 23 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both my Parents have made several off duty arrests and received commendations for doing so. If a police officer is off duty he can still arrest you if he suspects you of committing a crime Very Happy . personally i would have pulled over, took his name and reported him for abusing his powers Cool
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PostPosted: 00:16 - 23 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Recently there have been a speight of "unmarked cars" pulling people over which weren't unmarked cars and they have been either hijacking the cars they pull over, stealing from them or beating the drivers up.

So I personally wouldn't pull over for any unmarked car which doesn't have a uniformed officer in it with blue blues and two's on no matter what they bloody waved at me or did on the road.
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PostPosted: 00:31 - 23 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

What gets me is that he had nothing better to do on his day-off. Fair enough, if the guy was in a shop that was being robbed, you would expect him to do something but to chase after someone in your car when you know full well there is nothing you can do about it seems a trifle sad to me.

It is not like speeding motorists are exactly a rarity on that bit of road either.
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PostPosted: 10:19 - 23 May 2005    Post subject: Re: run in with the law Reply with quote

stinkwheel wrote:
...When I looked round there was a bloke in jeans and a t-shirt waving a police warrant card at me. I just waved at him...

Didn't know you could see someones leg attire from alongside in a bike. Must try that sometime Wink

Still, good story and as far as I can see from your description you were just 'making progress', as it says to do in the best motorcycling manual (aka Roadcraft Rolling Eyes).

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PostPosted: 10:25 - 23 May 2005    Post subject: Re: run in with the law Reply with quote

map wrote:

Didn't know you could see someones leg attire from alongside in a bike. Must try that sometime Wink

Still, good story and as far as I can see from your description you were just 'making progress', as it says to do in the best motorcycling manual (aka Roadcraft Rolling Eyes).

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You can see the whole person if they are up along side you, normally your quite abit higher than the car when on a bike too.
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PostPosted: 10:52 - 23 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Tatters, I have just realised how many bikes you've owned. And your what, 22 years young is it? Shocked
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PostPosted: 11:40 - 23 May 2005    Post subject: Re: run in with the law Reply with quote

Craig- wrote:
You can see the whole person if they are up along side you...

FYI I did add a Wink
Tend to find I'm concentrating on the road ahead Wink

...unless it's summer, women in little tops and short skirts and all that Embarassed
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PostPosted: 11:52 - 23 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Josh|RD125LC wrote:
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Tatters, I have just realised how many bikes you've owned. And your what, 22 years young is it? Shocked



18y old Smile
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PostPosted: 12:01 - 23 May 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I usually ignore people alongside me. The only time they'd get my attention is if they've got blue lights and sirens. Rolling Eyes
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