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 BLOFLY 636 Brolly Dolly

Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Karma :   
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 Posted: 07:37 - 27 May 2005 Post subject: fast corner exits |
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ok I have had a go at this before but i can't get the hang of it when exiting a corner as fast as you can go what would be the correct tecnique?
keep hanging off with as much of your weight over the front wheel and wind the throttle open smoothly
remain in the same gear which would allow just enough revs to clear the corner before you need to upshift?
but how do you steer smoothly while all the weight is on the back wheel almost? I have a problem when I open it up exiting corners the front sometimes lifts causing me to run wide sometimes very wide other times the rear tyre can slip a bit and cause the bike to wiggle and shake
is there a secret tecnique out there that can make it all work easy? ____________________ Those bloody footpegs......they ought to do away with em! |
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 Suzuki Roger

Joined: 03 May 2005 Karma :  
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 Posted: 08:10 - 27 May 2005 Post subject: |
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Before I wang the power full on out of a corner, I tend to sit back on the bike properly, rather than continue hanging off. Makes it easier for me to steer.
As for your running wide problem, you might be putting too much power on, or getting it on too early? ____________________ <Simple> no I'm shaven Jon
<Simple> it is a big enough hole.. I'll leave it now
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 mchaggis World Chat Champion

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Too much power too early I'd suggest. Getting the thing pointed in the right direction before you wang the throttle open will no doubt work. As you say, just keeping a bit of weight on the front wheel should be enough. ____________________ I must not be a troll...
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 Suzuki Roger

Joined: 03 May 2005 Karma :  
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 Posted: 08:25 - 27 May 2005 Post subject: |
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You can actually, but it's much harder.
I couldn't do it.
But then I can't do proper wheelies!  ____________________ <Simple> no I'm shaven Jon
<Simple> it is a big enough hole.. I'll leave it now
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 cunni Spanner Monkey

Joined: 15 Dec 2004 Karma :  
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 Posted: 08:26 - 27 May 2005 Post subject: |
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When you pass your appex point and start to get the power on;
1) Get your weight over the front
2) Regulate the power so as not to cause too much tyre slip or mono-wheeling! You shouldn't really be able to get on full power until you are mostly upright!
3) Climb back on as soon as you feel you can without upsetting the steering or putting you off where you are heading.
4) quick-shift the gears if you are at max. power in that gear, if you are smooth, then you will illiminate most mid-corner wobble. For long left handers (similar to Devil's elbow at Mallory Park) where you will need to change gear at almost full lean, short-shift just before max lean and let the power build through the torque! This will also cut down on the risk of a highside!
And the rest of the techniques? You will find them yourself, you will build them as you ride. No one can really tell you how to ride hard out of a corner, as everyone does it different and everyone else's method's may feel very wrong to you, hence causing you to corner slower.
The main key to speed - Be smooth! This will help you to achieve what you seek!
On a litre class V-Twin, I'd always short-shift before the apex and use the torque to exit faster, it would beat most 1000cc inline four's out of a corner!
Another Quick Tip - If this is for the road, (as opposed to the track) then make sure your not aiming for the kerb or white line when drifting out on the power, because if your front wheel becomes light or you drift too much, you have no run-off. Aim a little bit inside your maximum run-off area, then you should always be ok!
Hope that helped! ____________________ TL1000R Parts For Sale! |
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 cunni Spanner Monkey

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 Posted: 08:28 - 27 May 2005 Post subject: |
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Man, 4 posts turned up whilst I typed that last one!
Err, now me thinks;
You need to short shift just before the front wheel goes light. You should have plenty of torque on your machine to pull it off!
Good luck!  ____________________ TL1000R Parts For Sale! |
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Not that fun when you get it wrong though!  ____________________ TL1000R Parts For Sale! |
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 BLOFLY 636 Brolly Dolly

Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Karma :   
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 Posted: 13:14 - 27 May 2005 Post subject: |
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cheers people I am off to the Australian Superbikes tomorrow at Barbagallo Raceway in Perth about 200km away so I will see what I learn there and try it on my way home KIDDING I will leave it for the track and industrial areas I have a friend who has a ZX-12R with 194 horsepower at the wheel and he says it is near on immposible to accelerate hard out of a corner with out spinning the wheel or wheelying mid corner he said the trick he has always used is to keep your body weight over the front and hold the throttle constant till the bike catches up with the rear tyre and either slips back in line if it is sliding or eases itself back down if you are wheelying he also said the reason it wheelies when you start standing it back up is because when you are leaned over the tyres edge diameter is only like 17 inches but when the bike sits back up as you exit the corner with more throttle on the tyres centre diameter suddenly begins to grow from its edge diameter of 17 inches to 21 or so inches in the middle of the tyre which also suddenly increases the amount of drive delivered to the tyres surface, interesting isn't it  ____________________ Those bloody footpegs......they ought to do away with em! |
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 Posted: 13:18 - 27 May 2005 Post subject: |
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Aye, 'tis true, that!
PS, at some point, try short shifting and using the torque or your motor, I do it quite alot on the public highway, stops the wheel from spinning up but lets you open the throttle most of the way and keep it pinned!
Well, enjoy the racing tomorrow, I'm off to watch World superbikes at Silverstone in the UK on Sunday, should be a good day! ____________________ TL1000R Parts For Sale! |
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