59 more Derbyshire police officers get off speeding fines...

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Specially done to cheer up Kickstart

[R6jonny]

yep ...they were all driving marked police vehicles on their way to emergency calls ....


they dont have to stick to speed limits
















































is anyone else bored of these threads yet....accept it emergency vehicles are allowed to break the speed limit
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[mchaggis]

There's something of a problem with telling whether an emergency vehicle has its lights on or not if it doesn't strobe or point at the camera during the period of flashing. Without extending the technology to tell the cameras that the vehicle is speeding with good reason (pretty pointless really) it'll always be a problem.
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[R6jonny]

im not saying theres a problem with them being issued but everyones attitude when they get boshed ....



" oh its unfair " blah bollox all that shit
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[king756]

Hang the lot of the. We can't run the kittens over so why should they.

[Dom]

TBH I don't really see why this is a problem. Yes some of them might have been speeding without there being an 'emergency' but at the end of the day speeding's hardly some terrible crime and we all do it.

Only thing that bothers me is everyone's aware of that but the regular members of public are still subject to stupid amounts of punishment for driving at perfectly safe speeds.

[map]

I do not have a problem with emergency vehicles exceeding the posted speed limit in a valid response to an incident.

Excessive speed is not an issue, the notion that speed kills is false.
What is true is that inappropriate use of speed can kill.

If these vehicles exceeded the speed limit where it was appropriate and safe to do so and followed the basis of Roadcraft then IMO there isn't an issue. IMO this should also be the case for other road users. What is wrong is when the drivers cause accidents/death (and/or are driving/riding in a manner likely to cause this) and then expect not to be treated like the general public would.
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[Zero-G]

I just remembered that there was a bloke delivering a kidney or something like that in a car with a green light on top (doctor type one), he was delivering the kidney or whatever the organ was to another hospital 40 odd miles away or something and had to get it there in an hour or the organ would of been worthless.

He got done by a gatso on the A1 and got points and a fine for speeding, even though he was using an 'emergency' vehicle working for the emergency services.

This is all from memory though
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[king756]

[Kickstart]

[sickpup]

Now my problem with this isn't the speed but as Kickstart points out the flagrant disregard for procedure.

R6johnny

I don't know you but your reaction bothers me, did you read the article? your supposed to be a trained objective observer yet you've just endorsed 59 police officers possibly breaking the law and definately failing to follow procedure. This leads to things like Stoke Newington and the west midlands serious crime squad.

[Dom]

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[TheShaggyDA]

[R6jonny]

[R6jonny]

[daz|n00by]

am i wrong or isnt there a certain % of the speed limit all emergancy vehicels are allowed to go over ie ambulance can go so many% over and fire engines and also police, i cant rember the % of each service but wouild be interesting to now wouldnt it?
or maybe i,m talking bollocks if i am talking bollocks that would make me a good copper wouldnt it ?or maybe a judge in a case against a copper? cause all ever read and hear is a copper gets of with this and that.
i had a copper in my family and know a few coppers now plus i know a few "crooks" and belive me there really is 1 rule for them and 1 rule for the others.
thats my 2 pennys worth.
end of moan and rant
bye
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[Kickstart]

Hi

The point you are missing totally is that here are 59 cars caught by GATSO cameras over the speed limit and which had not complied with the local regulations for when they do this (it is already excluding those that have visable lights and / or had radiod in).

Sure I can beleive that some of these where being used where keeping to the limit would hinder its police use. No problem believing that most of them were. I do not beleive at all that every single one of them was.

Frankly I do not give a damn about the police generally breaking the limit, as indeed I do not give a damn about most people breaking limits most of the time.

What I get really hacked off with is hypocracy. If they are going to go around spouting all sorts of "speed kills" rubbish and prosecuting tens of thousands of people for speeding then I would expect that they should keep to the same rules themselves, rather than ensuring that they are seen to be protecting their own.

All the best

Keith
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[daz|n00by]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/05/20/nspeed20.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/05/20/ixhome.html
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[danclarkie]

[sickpup]

[instigator]

Och, what the hell. It's kind of relevent.

Got flashed by a gatso tonight in the car, trouble is I was well over the white lines (i.e past them by a good 20m) before it flashed. Black of night, no other cars, was doing 25, passed white lines then sped up, slowly, to 32mph.

Faulty or nabbed? Must be faulty surely. I was, as a fact, over the white lines by a good 20metres.

[Kickstart]

Hi

Had that happen a couple of times on a bike. Once when I was about 50 yards past the lines (no other vehicles around), and once when there was a van in front and we were doing about 5mph under the limit.

All the best

Keith
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