Aprilia RS 450 Or RSV 450

RS125_Tecky · Trackday Trickster Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Karma :

Dont know what you guys think of Aprilia on here but i've just found an article saying Aprilia are to lauch a V-Twin 450cc bike to help compensate the big gap between the RS 125 and RSV 1000 as RS 250's are not made anymore.

There yet decided on wether or not to call it the RS 450 or RSV 450

The article said it was also going to be put into an off road bike to compete with the yzf 426 etc. Which would be the first (modern) bike to have a V-Twin engine.

They havent released the bike yet just the engine, heres a pic!
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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

I believe the engine is already used in a motocross frame.

Think it's doing ok, though not massively well, not sure as I only quickly glanced over an article.

I was initially skeptical, but it could be interesting if some of the hype does turn out to be true; wouldn't want it to be any heavier than my rs250 though.

RS125_Tecky · Trackday Trickster Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Karma :

In the article i read it said Aprilia wouldnt reveal its actual weight but did say it was made using some of the lighest materials possible.

It also said in the article, with a little bit of work, the engine would fit inside an RS 250 frame
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Sparks! · Sir Tart-a-lot Joined: 30 Aug 2003 Karma :

This is old old news, the Aprilia supermoto has been racing for ages now, was doing pretty well last time I looked but not sure if they're still competing at the minute or not, and if they are I have no idea how they're doing.
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RS125_Tecky · Trackday Trickster Joined: 20 Apr 2005 Karma :

G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

The RS250 is not a 'wheelie monster'.

My zx9 is. It has a really wide range of torque and lots of power.

The rs250 is fun because it does not have this, I find it fun because you really have to thrash it to make the most of it; if you're not in the powerband it doesn't do much. This means it's very rewarding when it does 'work' for you.

If it had a lot more low down power it wouldn't be nearly as fun in my opinion.

Riding the zx9 fast is very 'easy', but soon gets quite boring as such; you can go ridiculously fast without trying at all. Going fast in it's own soon looses it's apeal.

loply · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Karma :

IMO This is good news - It will be nice to have an Aprillia thats actually rideable as an everyday bike to normal people.

At present its either a 125 stroker or a 1000cc monster- Neither of which would be right for me. A 450 though would be feasible, especially if it looked like the other 'prillia sports bikes.
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G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

You could always stick some aprilia fairings on a gs500 Razz

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Stu_666 · Brolly Dolly Joined: 27 Jun 2004 Karma :

Think I saw a wee while back a picture of a sportsbike they were thinking of making for this engine. Did look very nice but not sure if I'd want a 450cc 2t. If they did a 4t engine in it could be interested.

G · The Voice of Reason Joined: 02 Feb 2002 Karma :

It is a 4 stroke. If it was a 2 stroke it would be a very, very, nice bike. As a 4 stroke it has the possibility of being a bigger CBR125, which isn't such a great thing in my eyes (though would probably sell well).

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Claud 14.7 to 1 · World Chat Champion Joined: 06 May 2004 Karma :

Probably be faster than the RS250

Old 400ccs aren't too far off the 250. Now we have this brand new Aprillia, brand new engine, lighter, better handling etc etc etc.

I recon it'll be a good bike and a good seller. Fun bike that makes you use it like 400 4T or 250 2T but in a brand new chasis and brand new engine. Thumbs Up

Might not be as light though... maybe. Things have moved on a lot.

https://web251.nsi23.miniserver.de/hotmoto/artikelpics/rsv450.jpg
https://totalcar.index.hu/totalbike/hirek/galeria/aprilia/galeria200/aprilia450v2.jpg
https://www.cis.net.cn/motor/admin/webedit/UploadFile/news-2004513153228734.jpg

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Claud 14.7 to 1 · World Chat Champion Joined: 06 May 2004 Karma :

Is that the RS 250 frame/swinger?

Under 130kgs some people are saying. Some foreign sources say 130kgs as well. Just speculation though I recon. Rough idea perhaps.

loply · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Karma :

I imagine an Aprillia V-Twin 450 would be nicer, in terms of smoothness etc, than a single cyl though. And presumeably a lot more powerful?

Or is the bike in question going to be a single? :S
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Claud 14.7 to 1 · World Chat Champion Joined: 06 May 2004 Karma :

https://www.maxmoto.co.uk/aprilia_45_v2.shtml

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loply · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Karma :

I suddenly find myself obsessed with this bike!

Shame it doesnt exist, and if it did I couldnt afford it!
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lilredmachine · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Karma :

Posted this before but:

Bike it is currently in. SXV supermoto. This years S2 championship winning bike I believe, so has been doing very well. this bike weighs 120 kg wet.
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plugger147 · World Chat Champion Joined: 13 Mar 2005 Karma :

there's an article in one of the bike mags about the supermoto,they said it was doing realy well and tried it on a go kart track and was great fun at what it could do but it was purpose built for sm racing and there weren't anyplans to put it to road use in the near future. Thumbs Down

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lilredmachine · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Karma :

How recent was that? Because the Italian media were claiming that Aprilia were about to produce a road version not long ago.
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cagiva gezzer · World Chat Champion Joined: 17 Mar 2003 Karma :

The 'new' engine would have even tighter service intervals than the old 250 two-stroke engine. If it's coming from a motor-cross / trail background minor service intervals of way below 1,000KM are the norm.

Power wise, if you take it as almost two crf250's you're looking at ~70-80bhp, but with a maintenance schedule that makes ANY other roadbike seem maintenance free. Ignore it for an extra days riding and you'll end up with something like this.....

https://www.ericgorr.com/images/INDY_04/Wes_cylhead_2.jpg

Not the sort of bike i'd like to own, and to make it the sort of bike i's like to own it would need to be making UNDER 50bhp to give half decent intervals. However, it would then feel like you've got two xr250's under your arse... Again, not a bike i'd like to own.
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loply · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Mar 2004 Karma :

Im sure Aprillia wont release a 4 stroke which is as unreliable as you say.

Besides, whats outrageous about a 450cc twin making (say) 70hp?

How is that any different from a 400cc 4cyl making 65hp. The current crop of 400s are "normally" reliable arent they, and theyre 10 years old so...
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