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The#Doctor#
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 05 Jun 2005    Post subject: Screw found in my tyre! Reply with quote

Do i need a new tyre or can i just get it repaired?
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PostPosted: 21:08 - 05 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can put a plug in it, but they are only ment for a temp repair really. butcould be o.k if you don't ride the bike hard
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PostPosted: 21:11 - 05 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

It can probably be plugged depending on where it is.

Do not pull it out, leave it in there. Much easier for the guy at the shop to see where to put the bung and it will go flat if you pull it out. You will probably be able to ride the bike to the shop if you leave the screw in there providing you are carefull. I once did 250 miles after noticing a roofing tack in my tyre.

Either that or you could put a bottle of tyre slime in yourself then pump it up and pull out the screw, the hole should seal itself.
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 05 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

BE VERY careful when repairing a bike tyre !!!
If it is a lower speed rated tyre you can get away with 1 repair(max 3mm in diameter) but if its on a high speed tyre it is not advisable to repair it(I know somw people will contradict this but Ive worked in the tyre trade for nearly 10 years and if you have seen some of the horrors I have you wouldnt want it repaired.)
IMO if you have any doubts about it bite the bullet and get a new tyre
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PostPosted: 21:16 - 05 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well am going to go to a shop tomorrow to see what they say, but as for taking it easy was doing over a 100 alot today as i went for a long ride and didn't notice untill i got back, how much will it cost to get it plugged and how long will the plug last for until i have to get a new tyre?
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PostPosted: 21:37 - 05 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gixxer750 wrote:
but if its on a high speed tyre it is not advisable to repair it


The tyre is a dunlop D208
therefore would you recommend getting a new one or just repairing it as to be honest i can't really afford a new one or will i just have to bite the bullet and buy a new one ??
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PostPosted: 21:42 - 05 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've always had tyres bunged, on my ZXR4 and my Fireblade.
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PostPosted: 21:47 - 05 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoenix wrote:
I've always had tyres bunged, on my ZXR4 and my Fireblade.
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How much am i looking to pay and how long do these last for as someone said that they are only a temporary fix
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PostPosted: 21:54 - 05 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you wanna get it repaired make sure that the tyre has no "other damage" as in runflat(creasing visible inside the tyre on the sidewalls) and that it has a professional repair done.
You are looking aorund 15 quid for a repair and balance.
Also if it within approx 1" of the edge it will be classified as unrepairable as the repair is unable to adhere to the sidewall due to the flex within the tyre.
Best advice is probably get yourself into your local bike dealer/tyreshop and ask thier opinion
If you have any doubts wedge out for a tyre
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PostPosted: 22:05 - 05 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im not going to argue gixxer if you work in the trade, as you know far more than me on this subject!!

All I will say is that I plugged my bt014 on my CBR600 and then thrashed the arse out of it until it doe without any probs! I got sick of replacing tyres because of nails/screws etc, so I just took the risk! If the tyre had been on its way out I wouldnt have bothered though!
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PostPosted: 22:15 - 05 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive got no probs with a plugged tyre but when im tear arsing around (with or without the wife onboard) I'd prefer to know that my rubber is gonna be up to the job.
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PostPosted: 23:24 - 05 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gixxer750 wrote:
Ive got no probs with a plugged tyre but when im tear arsing around (with or without the wife onboard) I'd prefer to know that my rubber is gonna be up to the job.


Don't quite see what you expect to happen though.
As I see it the worst would be the bung came out and your tyre starts to deflate, you'd soon realise that something was wrong.

A nail or screw hole can be plugged and you can do it yourself too, only proviso is that it needs to have gone in fairly squarely.
it is conceivable that if it has gone in on an acute angle, or was avery large nail(!), it could have weakened the structure enough to initiate a tear, still unlikely to chuck you off.

Unless your tyre's about 70% knackered anyway, repair is definitely worthwhile.
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PostPosted: 07:08 - 06 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've plugged a BT010 on the 98 R1 I had. The tyre was two weeks old. I rode it flat for about 3 miles, (slowly) and re-inflated it, found the hole (right in the centre of tread) and shoved a thorn into it to stop the air escaping. I took the wheel off later on and tried a local car tyre place, who told me they wouldn't repair W rated tyres, and advised to chuck it.

One trip to my local Yam dealer and it was plugged no questions asked. Did 2000 miles on it before it was shagged, and it never missed a beat. Got to 12,000 rpm in 6th a few times too.

If you are worried then replace the tyre, but it wouldn't concern me too much.
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PostPosted: 08:14 - 06 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

doggone wrote:

Don't quite see what you expect to happen though.
As I see it the worst would be the bung came out and your tyre starts to deflate, you'd soon realise that something was wrong.


Tires are built without holes in them because it makes them stronger. If you put a hole or tear in them it makes them weak. If you spin a tire at over 100mph when it is fucked it is likly to just tear even more.

Ever been on a bike when the tire has blown out? Its a scary thing see https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=50954 for the results of a blowout in MotoGP.

Sometimes it will be fine and you will never notice, and others you will end up riding down the motorway at 90 on a rim.

If you cant afford a tire now get it plugged and take it easy until you get a new one.
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PostPosted: 14:10 - 06 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gixxer750 wrote:
Ive got no probs with a plugged tyre but when im tear arsing around (with or without the wife onboard) I'd prefer to know that my rubber is gonna be up to the job.


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PostPosted: 15:03 - 06 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gixxer750 wrote:
BE VERY careful when repairing a bike tyre !!!
If it is a lower speed rated tyre you can get away with 1 repair(max 3mm in diameter) but if its on a high speed tyre it is not advisable to repair it(I know somw people will contradict this but Ive worked in the tyre trade for nearly 10 years and if you have seen some of the horrors I have you wouldnt want it repaired.)
IMO if you have any doubts about it bite the bullet and get a new tyre


So why is it that when I was at the Avon factory, the technicians stated that an azaro and other Z rated tyres can take at least 1 repair sometimes 2? Dunlop are quite happy with a Z rated being repaired as are Pirelli.

Why is it that the Chairman of the BSI tyre committee actally owns a factory that makes internal plugs for Z rated tyres? Why is it that BSI only recommend that Z rated tyres are not repaired?

Like you having fitted and repired more tyres than I can shake a stick at, I would be more concerned about a wheel coming to me filled with slime or other concoction rather than whether a tyre can be plugged (providing certain criteria are complied with) and i would certainly be more concerned about an external temporary repair than an internal vulcanised mushroom.

The last Dunlop I had on the rear of the Blackbird covered over 15,000 miles (Including a day at Hockenheim) with 3 plugs in the back and never once cause me any concern, bearing in mind that unlike a tubed tyre, you do not get instant deflation on a tubeless tyre.
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PostPosted: 16:53 - 06 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for all your advice, i just got it plugged, cost me £15

just waiting for all that good whether to arrive so can go out for a blast on it Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: 19:32 - 06 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The last Dunlop I had on the rear of the Blackbird covered over 15,000 miles (Including a day at Hockenheim) with 3 plugs in the back and never once cause me any concern, bearing in mind that unlike a tubed tyre, you do not get instant deflation on a tubeless tyre.[/quote]
I have been the proud owner of three Blackbirds and never managed more than 6,500 miles out of a rear tyre Sick try this stuff, supposed to be the dogs thingys
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PostPosted: 19:39 - 06 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doggone, I think the potential danger of a bung failing is because they make a significantly bigger hole through the puncture site to fit the bung. So if it does somehow come out, which is very hard to invisage, then the rapid escape of air could well cause the whole area around the hole to split and result in a blowout. But for most people, we can't afford to replace every tyre that gets punctured, not at over £100 a peice.

Costs me £5 to have a car or bike tyre puncture repaired, depends where you go really.
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PostPosted: 21:54 - 06 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

battleaxe wrote:

I have been the proud owner of three Blackbirds and never managed more than 6,500 miles out of a rear tyre Sick try this stuff, supposed to be the dogs thingys


Like you I am on my third Blackbird, 167,000 miles on the first one, 190,000 on the second, and the current one isn't run in yet as it only has 20,000 on the clock.

BT010's I knock out in 1,000 miles, 1 brand new set of Michelin Pilots were shot after a 500 mile day out in Wales. Dunlops feel and behave like a 10 ply lump of concrete, hence the reason they don't wear out, although they did offer a fair degree of grip suprisingly Embarassed
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PostPosted: 23:08 - 06 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

T.C wrote:
BT010's I knock out in 1,000 miles, 1 brand new set of Michelin Pilots were shot after a 500 mile day out in Wales.


That's got to be some extremely aggressive riding to kill those tyres in that distance, I was getting 8000miles out of 010s on a Fireblade. 500 miles seems totally absurd.
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