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damianNSR125
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PostPosted: 21:21 - 02 Jun 2005    Post subject: Im a newbie!!! Looking for some info. Reply with quote

hello.

im new to the site, ive been readin through a load of the posts and i must say its been very helpful.

im thinking of doing cbt soon and getting a 125 some just want to get some info on gears, ive never ridden a bike with gears before and after reading through some posts i read that the gears go;

6
5
4
3
2
N
1

and want to get a bit of info,

when you are in neutral you have to click down in to first and then up in to second and so on?? (is that correct) if so what do you do to make sure you dont go back into neutral? (is that possible)

also if you are going down the gears say from 4 down to neutral do you click down to go into 3 then down to 2 then what? do you have to go down to 1st then click up to neutral??

also how do you check you are in neutral befor starting the bike up

SORRY IF THEY SOUND SILLY!!! Very Happy but im new to this bike stuff and want to get clued up on a few things before i take the cbt!!

(and i will be taking a geared cbt) Thumbs Up

cheers
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White Noise
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 02 Jun 2005    Post subject: Re: Im a newbie!!! Looking for some info. Reply with quote

damianNSR125 wrote:
when you are in neutral you have to click down in to first and then up in to second and so on?? (is that correct) if so what do you do to make sure you dont go back into neutral? (is that possible)


Yes it is possible but not likely, neutral is likea semi click up from first and second in a full click up, from second you semi click down to get into neutral. do the CBT and you will see. Thumbs Up gears do seems worrying, but they are not. they where my biggest worry when i first started riding.
your bike should have a neutral light on the dash to show when you are in neutral. but it is possible to get a false neutral so i tend pull the clutch in when i start the bike up
Hope that helps
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PostPosted: 07:29 - 03 Jun 2005    Post subject: Re: Im a newbie!!! Looking for some info. Reply with quote

damianNSR125 wrote:
How do you check you are in neutral before starting the bike up.


Roll the bike back and forth, it should roll without any resistance (just incase your neutral light decides not to work, like mine!).

https://www.begin-motorcycling.co.uk/cbt.htm <-- have a look at this CBT site, I feel it helps knowing whats involved.

Good luck with the CBT, I still have to do one myself.
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 03 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your in 4th, and see a red light in front, this is how i would slow down for it...


Clutch in > Shift to 3rd > Clutch out

Let the engine brake

Clutch in > Down to 2nd > Clutch out

Engine braking

Then on with the brakes and shift it down to 1st just before you stop.

Its all about planning ahead, and watching the road.



Hitting neutral on a upshift between 1st and 2nd is possible, just give it a good clunk up, and it will hit 2nd, if you go pansy about it, it will more than likely hit neutral.
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Groove
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 03 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

gd timing tbh! doing my cbt 2mo Shocked on a geard bike round the car park but as i aint 17 till the monday i gotta do the road bit on a 50cc ped (they dont have geared 50's where im going Sad )

gd luck with urs, i aint got a clue how to do gears either! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:25 - 03 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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do you have to go down to 1st then click up to neutral??


That's a nicer way of doing it. It depends on the bikes gearbox, e.g. My Kawasaki GPZ wouldn't let you select Neutral from 2nd, or put it into second unless the bike was moving. (Don't know if that was how it was designed or whether the gearbox was screwed.

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if so what do you do to make sure you dont go back into neutral?


My Hayabusa and my R6 did this to me a couple of times, typically when it happened when you filtered to the front of the traffic lights, open up the throttle and just stay there looking like a moron (that's where tinted visors are good). If you need to go from 2nd to 1st just give it a good hard click with your left foot.

Don't panic too much about gears, you will spend a fair amount of time on your CBT doing the gears sections.
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damianNSR125
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PostPosted: 00:08 - 04 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers lads

some good advice there Thumbs Up

i sure ill be fine when i get round to doing it

i think its like most things, the more you think about it the more complicated you think it is, but when you get down to it you realise thats its not as bad (i hope so anyway) Very Happy Laughing
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PostPosted: 02:31 - 05 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

damianNSR125 wrote:
cheers lads

some good advice there Thumbs Up

i sure ill be fine when i get round to doing it

i think its like most things, the more you think about it the more complicated you think it is, but when you get down to it you realise thats its not as bad (i hope so anyway) Very Happy Laughing


I think with my xj600 it won't let you start it up if it's not in neutral.

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PostPosted: 08:07 - 05 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

krebsy wrote:
I think with my xj600 it won't let you start it up if it's not in neutral.


mine will but will cut out if you try to put it in gear with the sidestand down.
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PostPosted: 09:35 - 06 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ditto. The sidestands always a good one...

Gears are easy, they sound difficult when you are trying to explain them out of context, like most things. However, when you get on the bike, they are really very easy to get used to and it is a lot more fun than riding a twist and go (IMO). The clutch is helpful for doing rolling burnouts in the garden Razz
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PostPosted: 07:15 - 08 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or you could have a Bullet, which goes :-

1
N
N
2
N
3
N
N
4

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PostPosted: 10:49 - 08 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheShaggyDA wrote:
Or you could have a Bullet, which goes :-

1
N
N
2
N
3
N
N
4

Smile



Laughing

Much like my CBR last night which decided to create it's own neutral between fourth and fifth whilst I was trying to keep in front of another, larger bike. Dammit.


Damian, you will have no problems with the gears, you will find that they actually feel natural. As for shifting between first and second it does vary from bike to bike.

Some bikes have an easy neutral to find and you will often find yourself in neutral when you intended to be kicking up to second. Likewise, there are bikes that are tough to get into neutral. My first 125 was an absolute pig for this and I would kick between first and second for ages without ever getting it into neutral. Rolling the bike forwards or backwards with the clutch in can often just help getting it into neutral in this case.


Good luck Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 08 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Neutral can be found in between every gear

When you go for your CBT they will teach you every thing because they expect people to turn up who have never sat on a bike.

The best/easiest neutral to go into is between 1/2 because you can go straight into 1st and take off.
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PostPosted: 15:53 - 08 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

i was fine with gears, first time i tried them i could do them (that was doing me CBT) only thing i had problems with was finding the 'biting point' pulling off Doh! kept stalling. it seemed to be loads of slack for the clutch then a very tiny bit to hold to pull off did it a coulpe of times but i then had to move to the moped cos i was 16 and had to do that on the road. Dance!
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PostPosted: 12:14 - 21 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

gears are easy to learn, by the end of your cbt day there not much of a worry, my worry was remembering to cancel my indicator and not look like a fool. with gears, mine hits neatural from second when i go high revvs but if i giv it another half a second it will click up to second fine. one thing not to do is when your coming up to a junction make sure u use engine breaking as then you know what gear to take off in again should the traffic start to move, on my cbt i was coming up to lights, the traffic started moving, i had put my bike into first thinking we were guna stop off we went, i let me clutch out, felt like i had stopped dead cuz i was still goign 20 or so mph. pulling away is harder then gears and you will be fine, every one worrys about there cbt, i know i did now i got my full test coming up :S
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 21 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

The main problem I had when I was on my CBT was that I kept dumping the clutch and stalling the bike... Remember to let the clutch out really slow... And keep it held in a tiny bit when you start moving... Pick up a bit of speed and SLOWLY release the clutch fully Smile
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PostPosted: 15:17 - 21 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

**Biker-Kev** wrote:
Neutral can be found in between every gear


Only if your gearbox is broken! Rolling Eyes

Or am I wrong about that? My CG certainly won't go into neutral between anything other than 1st and 2nd.
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