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steky
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 07 Jun 2005    Post subject: max speed of 100cc moped Reply with quote

hi there what would the max speed of a 100cc moped be roughly i have a mbk 100cc ovetto and all im getting is about 49/50

would this be right

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PostPosted: 15:37 - 07 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

id guess about 60?
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 07 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

r mopeds restricted or how do u tell if they r or not
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PostPosted: 17:39 - 07 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will be restricted because i would have expected a max speed of 60-70.

Take it to a dealer and ask about de-restriction.

Or to do it your self check a washer in the variator and the exhaust will have restrictors in it. Either get a performance one or take the restrictors out of the original. Also the CDI unit will be restricted. Replace this also.

Would expect around 90ish is this is done.
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PostPosted: 17:44 - 07 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

**Biker-Kev** wrote:

Would expect around 90ish is this is done.


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PostPosted: 17:46 - 07 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

My mighty Malaguti Phantom got to an indicated 67 once. So that was probably about 50 in the real world.
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PostPosted: 18:45 - 07 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Next door had a yam Aerox, i managed 60mph on it when taking it to the MOT centre - the guy was selling after declaring it sorn and since it was off the road for a year, his CBT validity expired so i had to take it.

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Would expect around 90ish is this is done
. Confused Questionable. I've heard people say that the 100cc scoots have very minor restictions in them and they are designed to only put out like 6-8bhp. Binge once told me that his Speedfight 100 was much slower than his tuned 70cc speedfight which managed 65-70 so 90 seems VERY VERY optimistic to me on a 100. In reality, expect performance to be on par with a 125 4 stroke.
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PostPosted: 19:01 - 07 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been borrowing a Peugeot Looxor 100cc 2t for just over a week while I save up the money to get my RX exhaust welded and the whole bike licensed/insured. To be honest, it's one of the most fun bikes I've ever ridden! It's very light, pulls well on the throttle, drops quickly into corners and has front and rear discs. Also has large wheels which makes for a more stable ride over bumps and through corners. But it also gets to a top speed of about 53-55 mph on a flat, which is about as fast as the Runner SP 50 I borrowed last year Rolling Eyes. I've checked for a washer by the variator and there is none, yet it still feels like it's running out of gearing near the current top speed because the revs reach fever pitch.

I find it hard to believe that that's the true top speed, however, since this would eliminate it from being able to drive on 55 mph roads without running out of gas every 30 minutes.

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PostPosted: 19:55 - 07 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all Its not a moped.

A moped would be less than 50cc and have a top speed of no more than 30mph.

It would be a 100cc motorcycle as is must have a numberplate light and full set of working headlights.

Also it wont be restricted, the only thing restricting the speed is its own lack of power!

I had a speedfight 100, 55 is all you could expect really and about 60 downhill.

Get a REAL bike.
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 07 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

You shouldn't expect great speeds from 100cc peds. The Speedfight 100 can do a max of about 60 really, probably the case for most others. You'll find a tuned 70cc and tuned 100cc, the 70cc will be better on top end and acceleration, simply because the 100's are low revving and the 50's are high revving, giving them a tad more power up top.
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 07 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

The other half says around 50 is probably the right figure for an mbk. He also says the Malaguti uses the same motor but is probably about 10-15mph quicker, but it also revs a lot higher & has a different CDI.
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 07 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

My old speedfight did 90kmh/56mph on the clock on the flat that is, (10kmh more downhill) which according to a sigma trip computer was about 54mph. When i had tuned it to a massive 10.8bhp it could reach 64mph on the trip or 115kmh on the clock.
A 70cc kitted 50, with a good pipe and well set up should do a real 65-70mph. All the 100cc scooter engines are low tech, air cooled units with less power potential than a Honda H100 engine.
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PostPosted: 20:24 - 07 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
...... less power potential than a Honda H100 engine.


Hoi! My H100 used to do 65 no problem, once had it up to an indicated 75 (but I got shouted at after lol).
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PostPosted: 21:00 - 07 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

DM wrote:
I've checked for a washer by the variator and there is none, yet it still feels like it's running out of gearing near the current top speed because the revs reach fever pitch.




Variator Restrictors are also located inside the Variator, they limit the travel that the rollers can move inside. It will be a plate inside the variator.
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PostPosted: 21:23 - 07 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

There aint a single restriction on the 100cc pug motor, If its revving high and struggling to reach 50mph, your belt and rollers are probably shagged!
The whole tuning thing is a waste of time on such a basic engine, that does not rev much over 6000rpm normally anyway. If you must do somthing then put a different pipe on, and try about 1gram lighter rollers. Thats still a waste of money, but it might get you 4-5mph in ideal conditions.
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PostPosted: 00:15 - 08 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

my gilera runner 50cc hits 55mph, altho its been fully de-restricted, pipe, n bits n pieces. my mates 70cc NRG hits 70mph. 4-strokes are much slower than 2-strokes (ped wise)
best to get a 125 2-stroke if ur after speed. they can top 100mph if done-up Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 00:53 - 08 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I said 90 because a mate had a speedfight 100cc and with a race pipe on it he was getting around 85 with it..
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PostPosted: 01:17 - 08 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

**Biker-Kev** wrote:
I said 90 because a mate had a speedfight 100cc and with a race pipe on it he was getting around 85 with it..


Probably speedo over-reading, it wont do 85...

I hit an indicated 68 mph once on the flat but have never managed it since Thumbs Down So thats about 60mph real speed? Confused

Ps, Biker-Kev, the 100cc speedfight does not have any restriction (you were wondering in your first post)
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PostPosted: 05:11 - 08 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chr!S wrote:

Variator Restrictors are also located inside the Variator, they limit the travel that the rollers can move inside. It will be a plate inside the variator.


Thanks, Chris, didn't know that. I'll have a look as soon as I can get ahold of a piston stop.

stevo: What's the life expectancy on a stock scooter's belt, though? The bike only has about 3,200 km on the clock at the moment...then again, maybe it's worth looking into. Again, it's not my bike, only a temporary solution until I have mine running, so tuning is out of the question.

EDIT: Also, it doesn't really struggle to reach 50 mph, it's actually quite nippy (on par with my friend's 125 4t bike until about 45 mph), it just slows down a lot when it gets up there. It's really as though the gearing is limiting it, which to me doesn't make any sense.
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PostPosted: 08:20 - 08 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

My mate had a then brand new 04 reg speedfight 100.

I used it to go blackpool on and it did 55mph as stock.

I really enjoyed riding it though, it was really really smooth and was fast off the mark.
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PostPosted: 11:01 - 08 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Speedfight and aerox 100's are not restricted as they do not exceed 14.6bhp.

The 100cc scooters are slow, a tuned 70 will be a lot quicker but obviously for a price. So if you want a comfortable cruising speed of 55 and a top of about 60 without having to tune it they are good.

To be honest you have to be 17 to ride a 100, so why not get a runner/typhoon/dragster/skipper 125.

These do 65-70mph topend and are a hell of a lt better on low end.

I think i misunderstood the post, answer is it should be going about 60.
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PostPosted: 12:46 - 08 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevo as b4 wrote:
Honda H100 engine.


Reckon I should fit one in my Honda MBX? Apparently they fit quite easily with a few minor mods. Cool
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PostPosted: 15:46 - 29 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi i recently bought an aerox 100, the guy i got it off said that its restricted but not in the variator in the exhaust. getting a new pipe anyway so that doesnt matter.
but i read somehwere that the engins ports are pretty rubbish so produce a lack of power, thinking a malossi 125 big bore??
good idea or not??

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PostPosted: 12:13 - 31 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

markcatate wrote:
**Biker-Kev** wrote:

Would expect around 90ish is this is done.


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PostPosted: 12:16 - 31 Oct 2009    Post subject: Reply with quote

jayy-cee-929 wrote:
hi i recently bought an aerox 100, the guy i got it off said that its restricted but not in the variator in the exhaust. getting a new pipe anyway so that doesnt matter.
but i read somehwere that the engins ports are pretty rubbish so produce a lack of power, thinking a malossi 125 big bore??
good idea or not??
thanks
Jay

Can you get a 172cc for them ? if so get that or are you on CBT ?
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