Second bikes... ?

[Visitor Q]

Hi all, its not through laziness i havent phoned my insurance and checked this, but basically, im going to be at uni next year, in some god forsaken hell hole either in the middle of nowhere or in the middle of gangland knowing my luck. Either way, im loathe to risk my beloved cbr. Also halls residence etc.

So i was thinking, has anyone tagged another REALLY shit bike onto their existing insurance? I used to get premiums of around 250 for 50's when i was 16 on a provisional with 0 NCB (as opposed to now being 18 with full licence and 2 years NCB), so im hoping if i buy some scruffy old cg or sr to ponce about on, make gaskets out of cornflakes, run on wheelbarrow tyres and leave festering under a cover all winter/summer while im back home playing on the cbr, it wont cost me that much.

Also running costs would be a lot cheaper, CBR gobbles petrol, is an expensive crash, makes me speed (no comments of you control your right hand) and id be very paranoid about it. Also would give me something to look forward to coming back home for.

Im looking at spending about 400 including insuring it. I just want something that kicks over, is a reliable runner, but slow and hideous.

Anyone done it like that?
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[Josh|RD125LC]

I'm hoping to whack both my 125's on one policy. But I don't know if I'll be rejected being just turned 17 in all.

I think it sounds like a good idea to me, just make sure you have enough money to run it!
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[TOM M]

wen i go to manchester met uni this year (touches wood) im takin my bike with me coz they got secure bike parking inside the courtyards of the halls of residence.
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[mchaggis]

I know this isn't totally relevant, but my Mum's got a good bike and a low value bike. F650 fully comp, £120. CG125, £55, TPFT.

Depending on how cheap it is, you might want to not bother with fire and theft cover on it at all, TPO really shouldn't cost you more than £2- 300. I presume you're basically looking for a ratty old 125?

Could always get a fizzy instead.
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[Gazdaman]

My MZ 125 cost £200, that would be a perfect second bike.

https://www.gaz-racing.co.uk/bike/MZ%20(Small).JPG

The 250 version was only £12.57 more than the 125. And would be slightly more live-with-able.

https://www.gaz-racing.co.uk/bike/DSCI0016%20(Small).JPG

And on the subject of insurance, I've got TPFT on my XJ, costing me about £600 a year, and I've got TPO insurance on any other bike, as long as someone else has insurance on it, and it's owned by someone else.

Therefore, V5 in my dad's name, he insures it for some ridiculously low amount (full no claims, IAM test pass, 52y/o) and bingo, I rag it around.

Gaz

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[Gazdaman]

Well, the 125 was only £300 for me to insure at 17 with 0NCB, passed my CBT that day.

You should be fine with 2 NCB and being that bit older.

They're very binnable, I put the 125 in a ditch, and all it needed were some new bars, a good excuse for some renthals.

The 250 is suprisingly nippy aswell, no-one's going to nick it, cheap as chips to run. Perfect.

And when you get bored,...make it a race bike.

https://www.bmzrc.org.uk/pics2005/P4030136.jpg

Gaz

[stinkwheel]

Ok, I have experience of this. You want a second bike to be over 200cc.

I have a multi bike policy (you would probably have to change your current policy to one of these), if the guy on the phone tells you you need two policies (which some of them do), call him an idiot and phone someone else. It costs me between 10 and 20 quid to put another bike on it. I insure my MZ660 as the main bike, it cost £11.60 to put my Jawa 350 on it and £18 to put my GPZ on it.

When I went to put my H100 on it I was told they wont accept bikes of less than 200cc on that policy. There is only one policy that does and it was a LOT more expensive.

Another point is that if you are moving to a scummy area full of thieves, a bike of 125cc or below has the life expectancy of an unattended bottle of buckfast at a Rangers match. They tend to leave bigger bikes alone.

Superdream or MZ250 would fit the bill nicely.
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[Gazdaman]

FYI, MZ 250 should put out about 17bhp.

Gaz

[mchaggis]

[stinkwheel]

MZ police special

There are a few in the country, I've seen them.

https://web.axelero.hu/furman/m05.jpg

As I have said before, and Gaz has confirmed. MZ 2-strokes were originally built as race-bikes in the 60s, they just haven't changed much since. The handling is not bad, the brakes let them down though, more recent ETZs have discs. It would slow you down a bit if nothing else
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[mchaggis]

[Will87]

CB250RS, cheap crap and no one wants to nick it. Bit of a bugger as it only has 26hp and is soooooooo slow for me, 70ish is best it'll go.

[Visitor Q]

@ will87

I have a cbr 600, ive got past the thrills and spills. Just want something i wont get abused for being too slow on, will allow me to potter around on, and will take the abuse i no doubt will heap upon it.

Cbr will contine to be loved
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[stinkwheel]

[mchaggis]

[ZaphodBeeble]

I had a Honda CD200 'benly' when I was 11. It was obviously off-road but it was an awesome bike for abusing. It only ever needed spark plugs and was so damn reliable. Good on juice too. Would only do about 60 mph though. Ahh those twin chrome exhausts.
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[Gazdaman]

The 2 stroke-ness of them is what makes it so fun! And they are very cheap to run. I used to get 200km out of £6's petrol on the 125.

Havn't ridden the 250 enough to find out yet.

And yes, the brakes are SHOCKING. The rear drum is actually better than the front disk on my ETZ.

Gaz

[stinkwheel]

Don't buy a CD benly, or indeed any of the hondas from that era with a pressed steel frame. The frame rots away then they snap in half when you go over a bump. They have built-in rust traps throughout the frame design.
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[Chriss]

I'm looking for a cheap bike to use a second bike. Like you say, I've got a sports bike, and I've had fun on it, but I want to use it more as toy. I was thinking of going the trials bike/motorcross route (I don't know the difference) but I want four stroke, mainly because I'll forget to put two stroke oil in every time I fill up, or however often you have to do it. I admit, I've never ridden a two stroke, but I've heard they're unreliable, though, probably mainly from abuse.

I was thinking Suzuki DR400, but there's no second hand ones about.
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[nora2004]

As for the insurance side of things, I use Ebike insurance, on my policy I have me my mate and my dad on, with a Mito 125 a tzr125 and a xj600s, I pay 720 tpo, Im 18 my mate is 21 and my dad is 47, one of the best companies outt here in my opinion!

[map]

If you're looking for a runabout to take whatever you throw at it why not something like the GT550? Little maintenance as shaft drive, insurance should be very cheap and if required bits can be got from any breakers for pennies. It also meets the requirement of not being the latest plastic wrapped missile so not desirable to be knicked.

Done quick look on eBay - click here

HTH
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