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houlsby
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PostPosted: 15:57 - 14 Jun 2005    Post subject: OLD ZZR600'S Reply with quote

ok... so what are they like? inurance group? rideability? reliability? if they are like the 1100 i know i will love it but with me being a 17 year old nutter what is its cornering ability? (i ride my rs full throttle round corners ask dods!) will i learn on it? and is it worth it in the end?
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 14 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fantastic bikes! Sports tourer giving the best of both worlds. In fact I think there's a nice one for sale on here, at a bargain price to. I think it was advertised in the Workshop section Very Happy
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 14 Jun 2005    Post subject: Re: OLD ZZR600'S Reply with quote

houlsby wrote:
ok... so what are they like? inurance group? rideability? reliability? if they are like the 1100 i know i will love it but with me being a 17 year old nutter what is its cornering ability? (i ride my rs full throttle round corners ask dods!) will i learn on it? and is it worth it in the end?


The ZZR1100 was no bloody good on the corners mate. And unless you can take a hair pin at 150 miles an hour I'd stay away from the ZZR600 (coz even if you can...it can't).
It was clocked in one of the magazines as 161 mph but even the tester said it was a white knuckle 161. If you’re after a scratcher try something a bit more sports focused. If you want straight line speed, touring ability and relative comfort then the ZZR6 is a good bike
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PostPosted: 16:40 - 14 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

im just looking to go down newquay on it, bit worried bout the insurance tho, 1200 quid 3rd party only, its only worth 500 quid! ive got a bit of an obsession with the zzr actually, i went on the 1100 to bmf, (on bk) and it was awsome, the roar of the remus can made me smile, 140 mile a hour with a pillion on aint bad either (15 stone of me)
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PostPosted: 16:44 - 14 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

You be able to get it cheaper than that.

Jon-B insured a bandit 6 for under £400.

I insure my XJ600 TPFT for Just over £600.
We're 17 and 18 respectively, I have 0NCB, he may have 1.

Gaz
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PostPosted: 17:52 - 14 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

well. im thinking about buying it, taking it home, fiting racks ect to get me to newquay, and possibly a paint job(i have spray gun and other toys to do this at home,) trekking down there and maybe keep it for when i do france next year.
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PostPosted: 18:15 - 14 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am also looking at buying a ZZR6 in the near future. They seem pretty fab bikes, certainly not for the faint hearted and they look good as well. I'm hoping a cheap one will come up when I have the money. I should get quite a bit from selling the RD and possibly the RG. So that will go towards it, and any wages I earn.
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PostPosted: 18:21 - 14 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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The ZZR1100 was no bloody good on the corners mate.

I disagree. Make the effort to actually set the suspension up and it handles suprising well. The 600 is comparitively a screamer, always felt like I was ragging the engine to make it do anything, but then again I rarely ride much under a 900/1000cc.
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PostPosted: 18:25 - 14 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Charlotte bought one last weekend from a local dealer to replace her GPZ500:-

https://www.alfa-pages.co.uk/TempPicture/Img_5740.jpg

N reg, 29K, good condition, almost new Micron exhaust (ZZR standard exhausts just about outlast a tank of fuel), new chain, 3 month warrenty, still got the centre stand, years tax and MOT, etc. Paid £2000. Could have got one cheaper privatly, but suspect for the same kind of condition and age we would have paid at least £1500 and struggled to find one with good exhausts and the like.

Nice bike to ride. Front suspension needs fiddling with (damping is too stiff, hopefully can be adjusted but someone might have used thicker oil). Seems comfy and good on fuel (decent range is important). Low enough seat for Charlotte to be comfy on it. Brakes are good (disks look new). Mirrors are pretty poor (but still better than the GPZ500).

All the best

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PostPosted: 18:28 - 14 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks very tidy, guessing its a lot better than the GPZ as well.
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PostPosted: 18:33 - 14 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shaun wrote:
Looks very tidy, guessing its a lot better than the GPZ as well.


Hi

Yep, a lot better. Smoother, faster, better handling, better brakes, more comfortable. On the other hand it was rather more expensive.

Headlight bulb blew after picking it up (she turned the ignition on and it popped in about a second, don't think the engine was even running at the time). Wandered back to the dealers thinking we could scrounge a bulb (bulbs are often excluded from warrenties) but they offered straight away and said they would fit it. Then the fun started as the clip that hold the bulb in became uncliped and the bulb slipped into the headlight. Time to take the fairing off (not easy on one of these). Took them about an hour and a half, and I landed up working on one side of the bike while the mechanic worked on the other side. Bet they regretted offering.

I scrounged it to wander down to Cosford on Sunday. I enjoyed riding it.

All the best

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PostPosted: 18:34 - 14 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

lovely bikes cheap to insure, plenty of power (90-100bhp) and good handling wheelies well too Twisted Evil


for a first 600 or just as a tourier they are fantastic. my 1993 has done 49,000 miles and is still going strong.
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PostPosted: 22:36 - 14 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any rough ideas on insurance for a 17 year old? As I said I'm looking into getting one early next year as my next bike, looking forward to the prospect, although I got my 125 to look forward to yet.
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 14 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gazdaman wrote:
You be able to get it cheaper than that.

Jon-B insured a bandit 6 for under £400.

I insure my XJ600 TPFT for Just over £600.
We're 17 and 18 respectively, I have 0NCB, he may have 1.

Gaz


ZZR600 is a teency bit faster than a XJ600 or a bandit 600 hence the insurance hike
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PostPosted: 23:15 - 14 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

insurance for me at 17 on a ZZR600, was £520 TPO with biketeam
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 14 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm willing to pay that. Seems pretty good tatters. Missing your KR1-S yet?!?!
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PostPosted: 00:41 - 15 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also consider the Suzuki GSX600F, if you can deal with the looks of them.

They are Air/Oil Cooled, so servicing will be cheaper, and they are also 2 groups lower than the ZZR at Grp 11 Insurance.

Also GSX600's seem to be priced slightly cheaper than the equivelent ZZR, though they are not worlds apart to be honest.
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PostPosted: 00:55 - 15 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZZR600 is faster and more powerfull than the GSX600F
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PostPosted: 00:57 - 15 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

tatters wrote:
ZZR600 is faster and more powerfull than the GSX600F
Yes it maybe, but the costs may outweigh those benefits, plus I prefer the GSX's gearbox to the ZZRs. And if you really want performance, can always put a GSXR750 top end on the 600 motor and have an uber fast teapot Very Happy.
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 15 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive just brought one and fooking love it!!!! 1997 model awesome for comfort and great fun on the twisties even if it is 33bhp. Just need some people to ride with now Sad Im 17 and was paying £160 TPO insurance on my RXS and am paying the same TPFT on the zzr, dunno whats goin on so I phoned my insurance company to confirm that there hadn't been a mistake and there hadn't!! Very Happy
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PostPosted: 20:09 - 15 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig- wrote:
Yes it maybe, but the costs may outweigh those benefits, plus I prefer the GSX's gearbox to the ZZRs. And if you really want performance, can always put a GSXR750 top end on the 600 motor and have an uber fast teapot Very Happy.


you could shoehorn in a whole GSXR750 motor or indeed a GSXR1100 engine too......
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 15 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris_biker wrote:
Ive just brought one and fooking love it!!!! 1997 model awesome for comfort and great fun on the twisties even if it is 33bhp. Just need some people to ride with now Sad Im 17 and was paying £160 TPO insurance on my RXS and am paying the same TPFT on the zzr, dunno whats goin on so I phoned my insurance company to confirm that there hadn't been a mistake and there hadn't!! Very Happy
lol take that insurance and run boy run! what a cheap quote!
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 15 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

bish777 wrote:
lol take that insurance and run boy run! what a cheap quote!

I know!! Well when I got off the phone to them I was like "that cannot be right!" So I waited for my dad to get home, told him and he just laughed at me and said to phone them again. So I did nad confirmed evevrything like my age, the bike etc and it was all correct. got the certificate of insurance and read over every detail and its all correct!! Very Happy
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 15 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

name of company?
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PostPosted: 19:46 - 16 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

tatters wrote:
name of company?

Ridersure, part of axa insurance Thumbs Up
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