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Fortuna
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PostPosted: 15:35 - 15 Jun 2005    Post subject: MOT's. Reply with quote

Jesus, they've got tough on the MOT now. £300 on a perfectly good R1 just to get it through an MOT. Evil or Very Mad
They failed it for things it passed on last year. If your number plate is anything but standard it will fail and the MOT guy can fail it for anything he considers dangerous.
He failed me on the gear link that goes through the frame as it moves slightly, brake pads that are still actually ok, 1 pilot bulb, 2 tyres Shocked FFS!, No markings on exhaust, non standard number plate, headrace bearings and a loose LH instrument cluster that you have to force to make it move.
I'm going to do the things I think I should do like the bulb, number plate and exhaust and if they fail it again I'm going to appeal which means not touching it for a few weeks until the Ministry check it.
I got the impression that they thought I would fix some of the things with them. Yeah right Middle Finger .
Anyone had similar experiences lately?
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Major_Grooves
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PostPosted: 15:40 - 15 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you going to take it to a different tester this time? Seems like this one was quite harsh! Confused
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cqueen
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PostPosted: 15:47 - 15 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah take it elsewhere for a re-test its only £15 innit
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bonehead
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 15 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds well harsh, I had my first MOT the other day and it passed, but he did say at the end 'those brake pads will need changing soon'.
I already new and had them in my bag just incase. But I still passed.
It all looked very thorough I watched him do it, even one of those yellow boxes over the end of my exhaust ( dont know what that was for) then he turned the engine over. Even had the back wheel on some roller thing on the floor.
It was worse than being in the dentists waiting room.
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Fortuna
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PostPosted: 15:56 - 15 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually yeah I might go elsewhere this time.
Yellow box? Is your exhaust aftermarket by any chance?
I think the wording is something like "A silencer that is in such a condition OR is of such a type that the noise emitted is clearly in excess of that which would be produced by a similar machine fitted with a standard silencer in average condition".
No law says you can't cover the end though. Plus it's at the testers discretion.
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TOM M
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PostPosted: 15:58 - 15 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive had to put my rs125 through two MOT's and its passed with flying colours every time.
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PostPosted: 16:00 - 15 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm gonna have to splash out on a standard number plate.

*Gaz bangs head on desk*.

The one that was on the TZR wasn't standard, so I bought a purdy small one, with a custom slogan.

I'll take it for an MOT when it's dark.

Gaz
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bonehead
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PostPosted: 16:04 - 15 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fortuna wrote:

Yellow box? Is your exhaust aftermarket by any chance?


No, was standard can with cagiva and the bs No. stamped on it, thats why I thought it was weird.
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jay12329
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 15 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Emmisions check?
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 16:53 - 15 Jun 2005    Post subject: Re: MOT's. Reply with quote

Hi

Does sound a bit harsh. They have always been able to fail it for anything they consider dangerous, and the bulb is required (although some places will overlook it as you always have your lights on), and the numberplate is definatly getting clamped down on officially in MOT test.

Slightly worn gear linkage really is taking the mickey, exhaust markings are irrelevant as long as it is quiet and is not marked "Not for road use" and I think the clocks would need to be very loose to warrent a fail on them for being insecure.

Find another MOT station. Maybe they just got grilled by the ministry, or are under some kind of warning.

All the best

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Fortuna
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PostPosted: 01:13 - 16 Jun 2005    Post subject: Re: MOT's. Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Hi

Does sound a bit harsh. They have always been able to fail it for anything they consider dangerous, and the bulb is required (although some places will overlook it as you always have your lights on), and the numberplate is definatly getting clamped down on officially in MOT test.

Slightly worn gear linkage really is taking the mickey, exhaust markings are irrelevant as long as it is quiet and is not marked "Not for road use" and I think the clocks would need to be very loose to warrent a fail on them for being insecure.

Find another MOT station. Maybe they just got grilled by the ministry, or are under some kind of warning.

All the best

Keith

Yeah that's what I was thinking.
The number plate I have no problem changing, and for the exhaust I've bought one of those tags you can pop rivet on with all the markings. Road legal exhaust though, but hey what can you do. Sad
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 16 Jun 2005    Post subject: Re: MOT's. Reply with quote

Fortuna wrote:
He failed me on ... No markings on exhaust

Do you have the fact that he failed you on this point in writing ?
If you do then appeal against the decision and report the test station here:
https://www.vosa.gov.uk/vosa/motorcycleowners/mottesting/appealingagainstanmottestdecision.htm
on the VOSA website, as they licence all testers.

There has NOT been any requirement for a mark or stamp on the exhaust since April 2002, and any MOT tester that claims you still need one, or fails you for not having one is not carrying out his job as per the current VOSA guidlines and is in breech of his tester status by not complying with the current MOT handbook.
By not complying with the VOSA guidlines a tester can have his tester status revoked.
Apart from not carrying out his job as per VOSA guidlines, he clearly also does not know what he is talking about if he is testing bikes using rules that are almost 4 years out of date and currently incorrect.

Fortuna wrote:
I've bought one of those tags you can pop rivet on with all the markings.

Dont do it. The mark that used to be required on an exhaust is stamped on, it has never been riveted on. You open yourself up to a fraud offenses if you get stopped by a copper with a bee in his bonnet about bikes and knows what he is looking at.
Apart from the fact that you have to drill holes in your can to rivet it on.
Why deface your exhaust when there is no need to.
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