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Gazdaman
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PostPosted: 00:38 - 26 Jun 2005    Post subject: Calling all SRAD owners Reply with quote

Friend of mine slightly altered the shape of his GSX-r SRAD, which is a '99 model by using a tree/hedge combination.

Anyway, something fell off in the crash. It's mounted forward and to the left of the rider, cowering in the nose fairing, it's just in front of the fuse box. Name that part. It looks like it should be a relay of some sort...?

And also, when you turn on the ignition on an SRAD, apparently it makes an electrical noise, the owner told me it was the fuel pump, to which I told him the bike had carbs. Guess that noise.

Any help/info much appreciated.

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PostPosted: 00:44 - 26 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dunno on the first question, but my old SRAD made the same noise (ish) as my fuel injected GSXR750 makes; you turn the key, it makes the whining noise as the needles bounce up and down the range and the lights come on.

Dunno if that helps at all?
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PostPosted: 00:46 - 26 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

The needle doesn't bounce on the 600 SRAD, which is a shame, as that looks uber cool.

Just wondering why an IL4 4 stroke should make any electrical whirring.

My TZR does it, but that's the YPVS servo, my dad's VFR does it, but that is the fuel injectors doing what they do.

It's not even an automatic choke.

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PostPosted: 00:57 - 26 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

The noise and movement of the rev counter is the fuel injection diagnostic.
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PostPosted: 09:16 - 26 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Carb bikes have fuel pumps... just not injectors.

they have fuel pumps to force the petrol into the carbs, because gravity feed isn't quick enough.

sometimes i get a short / long (dependant) tickiing / whining noise...

just comes from fuel pump
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PostPosted: 12:58 - 26 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, so that's the whirring.

Can anyone offer any insight as to what the missing part might be?

It's right in front of the fuse box, in an ABS plastic box, the same as the fuse box.

It's stopped the electrical whirring, nothing happens when you thumb the starter, and the indicators don't work, but that could be a fuse.

I believe it's a relay, just what it does I don't know. And until we know what it is, we can't get another one.

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PostPosted: 16:23 - 26 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought that the 1998/1999 SRADs were fuel-injected?

If that is the case, then the whirring noise is indeed the fuel-injectors being primed.

In regards to figuring out the part - any chance that you can get hold of a workshop manual/fiche/wiring diagram? Or even some pictures (as they speak a thousand words, apparently...).
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PostPosted: 16:44 - 26 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

do the inidcators work, or high beam as it could be the relay for either?
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PostPosted: 17:26 - 26 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Which bit?

The bit circled is the indicator relay.

TiN wrote:
I thought that the 1998/1999 SRADs were fuel-injected?


I think the GSXR600 didn't get fuel injection till '00
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PostPosted: 17:45 - 26 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

All SRADs have fuel pumps, carbed and FI, that's what the noise is. 750 SRAD got FI in 98, the 600 in 99. That box that mounts to the left of the fusebox as indicated in the picture is indeed the indicator relay, it'd stop the indicators working, but it wouldn't stop it from starting, you've got another problem, checked the killswitch?
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PostPosted: 17:48 - 26 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

This bouncing of the rev counter and speedo isn;t only on FI injected bikes either, it does it on my carbed Bandit, and it makes a whirring noise.
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 27 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have a look at the Microfiches on this site. It's American but might be able to help you identify the part.

And I can confirm that the whirring noise is the fuel pump priming the carbs.

[edit] Sorry - just realised I forgot the link! https://www.ronayers.com/fiche/getman.cfm [/edit]


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PostPosted: 17:18 - 27 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, apparently it's the indicator relay, and also something to do with the sidestand switch. Which would stop it starting, but shouldn't stop it starting out of gear...

Bit stumped.

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PostPosted: 22:45 - 27 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoenix wrote:
All SRADs have fuel pumps, carbed and FI, that's what the noise is. 750 SRAD got FI in 98, the 600 in 99. That box that mounts to the left of the fusebox as indicated in the picture is indeed the indicator relay, it'd stop the indicators working, but it wouldn't stop it from starting, you've got another problem, checked the killswitch?


I could be wrong here, but i'm fairly sure ALL the SRAD 600s were carbed. It was only the 750 that got FI later in the model years.
The first gixer 600 with FI was the K series.
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 27 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoenix wrote:
All SRADs have fuel pumps, carbed and FI, that's what the noise is. 750 SRAD got FI in 98, the 600 in 99. That box that mounts to the left of the fusebox as indicated in the picture is indeed the indicator relay, it'd stop the indicators working, but it wouldn't stop it from starting, you've got another problem, checked the killswitch?


I could be wrong here, but i'm fairly sure ALL the SRAD 600s were carbed. It was only the 750 that got FI later in the model years.
The first gixer 600 with FI was the K series.
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 27 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoenix wrote:
All SRADs have fuel pumps, carbed and FI, that's what the noise is. 750 SRAD got FI in 98, the 600 in 99. That box that mounts to the left of the fusebox as indicated in the picture is indeed the indicator relay, it'd stop the indicators working, but it wouldn't stop it from starting, you've got another problem, checked the killswitch?


I could be wrong here, but i'm fairly sure ALL the SRAD 600s were carbed. It was only the 750 that got FI later in the model years.
The first gixer 600 with FI was the K series.
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 27 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

its the indicator relay thats missing

and the noise is the fuel pump

and that is a definate on both ive got two 1999 gsxr 600 srad's Wink
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 27 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really like the whining pump on startup, reminds me of my brothers RD350 YPVS stinkhorn. Got me hooked on bikes , that did.
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PostPosted: 23:39 - 27 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

stu_gsxr wrote:
and that is a definate on both ive got two 1999 gsxr 600 srad's Wink


Are they carbed or FI?
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PostPosted: 23:47 - 27 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

dibbster wrote:
stu_gsxr wrote:
and that is a definate on both ive got two 1999 gsxr 600 srad's Wink


Are they carbed or FI?


carbed 2000 on is FI
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PostPosted: 00:56 - 28 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

My '99 600 is carbed.
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PostPosted: 01:05 - 28 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

all 600 srad's upto 2000 where carbs 2000 on are FI

750 srads 97 on are FI
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PostPosted: 01:28 - 28 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

2000
K series.
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PostPosted: 01:32 - 28 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

mistergixer wrote:
2000
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so there is someone on the same wave length Laughing Laughing
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PostPosted: 01:36 - 28 Jun 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

'99 Blue White SRAD 600.
There is no other colour for a gixer.
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