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McJamweasel
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PostPosted: 02:19 - 03 Jul 2005    Post subject: What bike? Reply with quote

Sorry guys, but I'm after some inspiration.

Basically, when Betty is fixed up she's going. It's time for me to move on, I feel that we've grown apart lately.

What I'm after is midrange grunt. I don't want a balls out sportsbike - my riding doesn't justify one. Oh, and some moderate 2-up touring ability. I'm talking easy enough for 300 miles a day - so not Pan European league or anything.

Some of the bikes that I've thought about are the SV650 (won't be able to afford a thou Sad ), Fazer (again, can't afford a thou), TDM850, VFR800, ThunderAce.

Budget - I hope to have arounf £3k. Insurance wise - I'm 23 with 4 years no claims - currently around £400tpft on my ZX-6R.

So - lets hear your suggestions (and offers of test rides Razz).
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Gazdaman
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PostPosted: 02:24 - 03 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can only comment on the VFR800.

I've ridden, and gone pillion on one, I love it, the perfect mix between a sport 600 performance, and the touring abilities of something not as fun.

It's a little sporty for all out touring, but 300 miles in a day is easy.

I love them, although they seem to hit the rev-limiter a little quickly Twisted Evil

A good one will set you back 3k, for a viewpoint my dad picked up a minter ('99) for £3.4k, with various performance upgrades.

And they look good!

https://www.gaz-racing.co.uk/bike/friends/DSCI0135%20(Small).JPG

My dad's scared of his, what a woman.

Gaz
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Dom_
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PostPosted: 02:24 - 03 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, i was going to suggest RSV Tuono, because i just love them... Great seating position, plently of grunt.

If not, i don't know how long kawasakis Z750's have been out, or if you'll be able to pick one up for £3k but they will have plenty of grunt and a nice seating position, they look the part too.

If neither of those tickle your fancy then something like a Fazer would be suitable, only the newer models though! Thumbs Up

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Robby
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PostPosted: 09:28 - 03 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think an SV would feel like a significant step down after a 600/4.

A grunty four may be more you - theres more to midrange and torque than the engine layout, you could have a four that makes good low down and midrange power in a smooth manner.

Go on, bandit 12.

Failing that everyone always speak highly of the VFR800s and Thundercats are surprisingly tough.
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 03 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

VFR maybe, but the service costs of a VTEC one are silly, and I suspect any 800 is out of the budget you mention.

Maybe a Triumph Sprint. Thunderace would be good. They are meant to be comfy, but I doubt they are that much better than the ZX6R. Maybe a large off road style bike such as an Africa Twin. 1200 Bandit is possible, same for a ZRX, CB1300 or the like (you could easily get a Bandit in your budget). How about an old CBR1000 (not the new Fireblade type model).

All the best

Keith
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Wave2k
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PostPosted: 14:21 - 03 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

CBR600 ?

Thundercat 600 ?

both can be picked up fairly cheap and there not kawasaki
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PostPosted: 14:29 - 03 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

A later model GPZ900r? Getting older now but I have seen quite a few with a reasonably low mileage going about recently

FZR750?
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dazzo23
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PostPosted: 14:58 - 03 Jul 2005    Post subject: Re: What bike? Reply with quote

McJamweasel wrote:
Sorry guys, but I'm after some inspiration.

Basically, when Betty is fixed up she's going. It's time for me to move on, I feel that we've grown apart lately.

What I'm after is midrange grunt. I don't want a balls out sportsbike - my riding doesn't justify one. Oh, and some moderate 2-up touring ability. I'm talking easy enough for 300 miles a day - so not Pan European league or anything.

Some of the bikes that I've thought about are the SV650 (won't be able to afford a thou Sad ), Fazer (again, can't afford a thou), TDM850, VFR800, ThunderAce.

Budget - I hope to have arounf £3k. Insurance wise - I'm 23 with 4 years no claims - currently around £400tpft on my ZX-6R.

So - lets hear your suggestions (and offers of test rides Razz).


Have a look HERE for some TDM related stuff
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Phoenix
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PostPosted: 15:13 - 03 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Thunderace would be good. How about an old CBR1000 (not the new Fireblade type model).


You'd rate an old CBR1000 over a Thunderace when comparing to the ZX6R?

I'd say the thunderace is the best value/performance for money out of any of the ones you mentioned. Friend at work got his for £1300 and its in very good condition, small dent in tank, 13,000miles, it's the stopgap between the FZR1000 and the R1 so it's not short on power and handles pretty well too for a big bike.
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G
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 03 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thunderace always seems to be pretty good value and is supposed to be able to hustle a bit (though not up to the zx6, which you named 'betty' Confused - 'the bitch' was fine for me Smile ).

Much as I don't like to say it, how about a big twin?
The Firestorm tank range would be limiting, but I would be tempted by a TL-S; while they are known to be a bit violent, they should be find if you take it easy and don't abuse it.

Riding a TRX850 I would say you would fine the TDM a bit lacking; it just has the torque of the 600, but I would say is generally 'lesser' in most ways. Unless of course like me you actually want a slower bike than a sports 600 that you have to make quite a bit of effort to get moving.

If you find it comfortable, I've always found the (older) blades quite neutral; they've got a broad range of power that's quite flat and suitable for two up touring.
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EuropeanNC30R...
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PostPosted: 16:31 - 03 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are people getting the Thunderace confused with the Thundercat?

The Thunderace is a 120+bhp, 170mph+ 1 litre superbike Confused
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G
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PostPosted: 16:35 - 03 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is also a five gear, torquey, heavy-by-today's-standards long distance mile muncher.

While something like the RS250 is quite hard to ride slowly, a bike like the thunderace has the midrange go to be ridden sedately, but still keep up a reasonable speed.

I don't think the thundercat has any more midrange go than the ZX6 does.
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McJamweasel
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 03 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys, I think I will look into a Bandit 12. Insurance is good - Bennetts quoted me £360 TPFT compared to £505 for the ZX6.

The TDM is also looking very tempting.
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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 00:10 - 04 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Phoenix wrote:
You'd rate an old CBR1000 over a Thunderace when comparing to the ZX6R?


Not really. CBR is less sporty than the Thunderace, and less powerful, but more comfy for longer journies.

All the best

Keith
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