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gsxr600menace
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PostPosted: 16:02 - 05 Jul 2005    Post subject: 1st Pillion Passenger Reply with quote

Any tips you can give me for taking my first pillion passenger (our lass) out on the back of my gsxr600 ? does the bike feel heavier at slow speed ?
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Villers
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PostPosted: 16:07 - 05 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im no expert, but I took my lass out on the back last summer.

I gave her the thorough instruction session and we worked out a code for if she was scared or anything went wrong. To cut a long story short she was scared, not like 'slow down' scared - she just couldnt handle it! 20 in a 40 was too fast for her!

Just thought I'd warn you.

Anyway, the bike will feel like a pig going slow especially if she's 'expecting a harsh winter' so to speak. Even so my gf's a size six and she wriggled all over the place so at slow speeds it felt like it had a mind of its own.

My worst experience was last week when I took my 16st+ mate on the back of the hornet (poor little bike). Im five ten and 11st, hes nearly 6 feet four. I managed on the open road once he stopped leaning for me (he's a biker too Rolling Eyes ), but at slower speeds it was a nightmare.

good luck
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PostPosted: 16:07 - 05 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends if she's a fat cow or not.

If she's a 7-stone midget, then you'll barely feel her on the back. Wink
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PostPosted: 16:10 - 05 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Suzuki wrote:
Depends if she's a fat cow or not.

If she's a 7-stone midget, then you'll barely feel her on the back. Wink


Hahahaha yep, just about to say that!! I could still throw my old bike around like my GF wasn't on it!!! When doing this though you must watch out for blows to the kidneys when you stop at the lights Very Happy
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PostPosted: 16:10 - 05 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a good test of how smooth a rider you are too. If yer lids are banging together every gear change then try clutchless changes.
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 05 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

EDBANGER wrote:
you must watch out for blows to the kidneys when you stop at the lights Very Happy

So true!

Annabella smacked me round the head once, after I pulled a little stoppie at the top of her road. Honestly, it was tiny. Laughing
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gsxr600menace
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PostPosted: 16:21 - 05 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are clutchless gear changes bad for the bike ?

She is not big so i am hoping it will not feel that bad.
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PostPosted: 16:24 - 05 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Clutchless changes are fine if done correctly.

TBH unless you're good at them anyway I would avoid. Just take it easy on the clutch and make sure you match the revs to road speed before letting the clutch fully out. That way you should stay smooth.
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PostPosted: 16:41 - 05 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I take my other half quite regulary, he's heavier.

Best tips that apply I find are, make sure they don't lean for you Rolling Eyes , use both feet to stop at first, until you get the feel for it, and make sure they know not to wiggle on corners and at slow speeds.
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PostPosted: 17:16 - 05 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Villers wrote:
especially if she's 'expecting a harsh winter'


Laughing Excellent, I shall store that for later use!

My best advice on taking a pillion for the fist time would be to get them to 'make like a rucksack'

If you give them a looooong list of things to do or not do, it confuses them and they are more concerned with doing/not doing what you have said than actually enjoy the experience, remember this is why you are taking them out!

If they hold on to you like a rucksack, they will automatically move move you.
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PostPosted: 18:27 - 05 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

My girlfriend's only about 8 stone, and I hardly know she's on the back. I feel it a bit when we're going very slowly through traffic, but when we get going she may aswell not be there.

The most important thing is that she leans with the bike. There was one time when I was going around a roundabout, and she decides to talk to me in my left ear (ie. leaning the wrong way). The bike suddenly stopped turning, and went in a straight line. Luckily, I had time to compensate and make it around the roundabout safely. It just made me realise how important the passenger's leaning is. Luckily, apart from that one time, she's generally a very good pillion.

I've also taken my brother on the back, and he's heavier than me. He goes on the back on my dad's bike a lot so he's good at getting the leaning right. Apart from when going slowly, I didn't much notice he was on the back either. Being on a GSXR600, unless you're caining it, then you probably won't notice the speed difference either.
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PostPosted: 18:36 - 05 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Villers wrote:

My worst experience was last week when I took my 16st+ mate on the back of the hornet (poor little bike). Im five ten and 11st, hes nearly 6 feet four. I managed on the open road once he stopped leaning for me (he's a biker too Rolling Eyes ), but at slower speeds it was a nightmare.


I know where you are coming from, people who ride bikes themselves make bloody awful pillions. I know I am bad at it and when I take mates on the back you get exactly the same. The trick is to look at the countryside or the back of thier helmet, if you start looking over their shoulder at what the road is doing you start trying to do the riding yourself, much to the annoyance of the rider.
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PostPosted: 19:35 - 05 Jul 2005    Post subject: New Member! Reply with quote

Hi, I'm New!

Lol, this weekend I took my friend on the back of my suzuki TS50 trail bike (Im 16 lol, and the aprilia is in the garage so this is all i got) the TS aint running quite right anyway (may have something to do with the hole in the exhaust...) and struggles to reach 30mph with only me on boad, but they were only country roads so I thought what the hell!

And my mate is a chubby bugger!

So first of all I stalled it coz I wasnt used to having the extra weight, got it going for a while, topped out at a mind-boggling 23mph! then came the hill... I swear it probably took me 5 mins to get up this hill lol!

To make it worse I dropped the bloody thing when i was turning it round as there was some fine gravel (not on the road no damage done, we had jumped off the bike before it hit the ground!)

So poorly TS50+steepish hills+gravel+fat mate = not a good idea!

Anyway... riding pillion is great! I go pillion on my dads bike (ZX9R) and its great fun only thing better is actually riding lol!

Matt Smile
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 05 Jul 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

For me it didnt feel much different except for needing a bit more throttle. The big difference I noticed was stopping. Now twin leading shoe drum brakes are just about OK for 1 person, but not so much for 2 people! Stopping required a relayed message from a few miles infront Laughing When my restriction finally runs out (next august Sad ) I will be able to get a bike that is actually happy going AND stopping with 2 people on board Thumbs Up
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