RIDING FAST MEANS YOU'RE DANGEROUS

[getyerkneedow...]

Ok to settle a score with some fellow bikers, colleagues, friends etc.

Please answer this simple poll.

Does riding a bike fast mean that you are dangerous, and a danger to other road users?

Or can you ride a bike fast and remain safe (as safe as is possible on 2 wheels).?

[G]

In my opinion:
The majority of people that ride bikes fast do put themselves and others in more danger.

It doesn't mean that this has to be the case though.

[Chriss]

There's an argument if you ride at the speed limit, all the time, you get lethargic.
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[Bendy]

Riding dangerously makes you dangerous.

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[bazza]

The question's too simplistic.

Riding fast all the time, disregarding traffic/weather/road conditions = dangerous.

Riding fast at 5am on summer mornings/good visibility/empty roads = not dangerous.

(Even those answers are a bit vague)

Prepare for the boy racers to argue differently, however...
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[MarkyPancake]

That's a good question and a tough one to answer.

Personally I don't ride fast and logic would say that the faster you go the more risk is involved, but if you're accustomed to riding fast then your reaction time may have adjusted accordingly.

[mr.z]

Police riders ride VERY fast and totaly safe...

BUT, they ride totaly controlled, do not take risks, ride aiming to get 100% certainty before makeing an overtake e.t.c.

However apply trackday "fast" to the road and your going to end up dead, knee downs are all very well on tracks but on roads here you'd have your leg ripped off on the crappy surface if you manage to avoid the lorry going arround the horse in the middle of the road, useing a raceing line will put you right in it as well.


Personally i stick to limmits, looseing my licence is not an option, without it i'd be farked royally, 6 points and its gone..


Fast depends on allot, i'm affrid most "fast" riders out there are just waiting to get theirself in trouble with the law or a ditch, fast rideing when its done propperly is perfectly safe, unfortunately allot of the time its riders rideing past their observation and controll skills.
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[Method]

Riding a bike fast does not mean you are dangerous...

People can ride bikes safely at speeds greater than most of us can even reach. It depends on the rider, not the speed you are going at. If your an idiot doing 150mph then the odds are your going to be doing something dangerous... but if you are a 'good' rider then you can happily cruise at 150mph without causing any danger to yourself or other road users.

And on the subject, you dont have to be riding fast either to be dangerous... on the flip side i find people that are riding slower than speed limits dangerous as they are a hazard to the people following... or those odd little folks that get intimidated and dont go any faster than 40mph on motorways and dualies...
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[kenny]

a point here when u buy a 50cc scoota it will only do 30mph and 15mph up a hill now isnt that more dangorus to you and other road users around you as it will cause traffic hold up and put you in a bad position on the road. and 30mph is not driving fast


so i say no driving fast can/is save on two wheels its when you try to take chances then its not i.e wheeling it, trying to fit through a gap when your doing 50+mph
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[J20a]

I don't think riding fast is dangerous. Depending on the situation. Even if you're breaking the speed limit, as long as you are in control of the bike and not being a complete wanker involving other road users then not really a problem..

[Kickstart]

Hi

Depends what you mean by fast. 100mph on an empty motorway is fairly slow, but legally very fast.

It is perfectly possible to ride in excess of many speed limits safely. It is also entirely possible to keep to them and be dangerous. However I would say that going as fast as you can is almost certainly dangerous.

All the best

Keith
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[killa]

I ride fast where I think it is safe to do so, some people ride fast and don’t take into account how safe they are.
Cagers and others who see a bike tearing down a road say it’s dangerous but you can’t say anything unless you’re riding it yourself.
As said before, riding on most roads over the speed limit disregarding traffic laws is dangerous.
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[colin1]

I know speed can be fun and i know that th push for higher speeds drives bike sales and so becomes the culture of biking but...

If there was no one else on the road you would only have to worry about getting the bike round the bend without coming off.

Imagine a little old lady about to turn right onto a national speed limit road from a side junction. She looks left and there is nothing coming. She looks right and there is nothing coming so she sets off on her right turn onto the road. Between her looking left and pulling away, there is plenty of time for her to not see a fast vehicle aproaching on the side of the road that she is moving into.

Ok if she was quicker at looking and did a second look to the left she might not kill you on your bike. But if you werent going at 80 she would have seen you.

I would say speeding on a stretch of road without junctions is fairly safe but if you dont know the road, and you dont know where the junctions are, its a bit daft. You need a margin for error in which other people can make mistakes and you can still have enough time to react to stop yourself getting killed.

Overtaking is probably more dangerous still, but is actually safer the faster you do it but obviously not near road junctions.

The thing about meeting someone like you coming the other way applies to getting a bit close to the centre line on bends. You dont need to cross it to hit someone doing the same coming the other way. Someone posted about this happening on a forum a month or two ago.
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[wantser]

depends on how compitent a rider you are. If you have just taken your test and go striaght out to test the top speed of you gixer thou on a busy A road, then you are dangerous. If you ride sencibly and within your ability a little extra speed can not only be a thrill but valuble experience. I think it all comes down to competance and good knowledge/self control that there is a time and place.
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[NSR125-Kid-UK]

Visordown would seem to think it does .
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[Ninja]

Hopefully riding a bike fast means you're already fully aware of the conditions, environment and risks enatiled in doing so ... and then it's not inherently dangerous ...

However, there's a Perception Gap is to be thought about - ie How much care and awareness you THINK you're taking versus that which you're ACTUALLY putting yourself up to ...

Fast as you like knowing your own limits (perceptual or otherwise) is fine ...
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[RobB]

Safety cannot be measured in miles per hour.
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[Jack_Cheese]

Riding fast is dangerous if you are in a built up area, or on a dodgy road surface ( like 99% of the roads in England). However, on a warm deserted sunday afternoon with sticky tarmac, on a country lane where you can clearly see round the corners, let it rip - that way it's only you who will end up in a hedge if you over-estimate your potential
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