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Kickstart
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PostPosted: 23:02 - 06 Aug 2005    Post subject: Watch out for brakes Reply with quote

Hi

Helen came round with her CBR400 this afternoon. Had a bit of a look over it. Few things need sorting (down pipes, although D&K do replacements for £175 / £210 +vat for mild steel / stainless steel).

However found a serious issue with the brakes:-

https://www.alfa-pages.co.uk/TempPicture/HelensBrakes.jpg

So for those who fancy tarty anodised alloy fittings on your brakes, think again.

All the best

Keith
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PostPosted: 23:12 - 06 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmmm, my Braided hose banjo's are corroding quite nicely at the moment too.
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PostPosted: 23:17 - 06 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

If they are anodised alloy ones (ie, blue or pink things) then just throw them away and put new ones on.

The alloy ones will fail.

All the best

Keith
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PostPosted: 23:18 - 06 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nah, there standard stainless looking ones with a hell of alot of rust on them. Confused
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PostPosted: 23:26 - 06 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I literally JUST bought these:

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Goodridge-Braided-Hoses-Kit-Hornet-600-900_W0QQitemZ7990435183QQcategoryZ9946QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Is helen replacing them then? Whats wrong with the downpipes if they need replacing? (holes?)
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PostPosted: 23:34 - 06 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Yes, those hoses need replacing. Put it this way, we gave her a lift home rather than riding with the brakes in that state.

Down pipes have a fair few small holes. Some might be repairable but not all due to the position between the pipes.

All the best

Keith
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PostPosted: 23:41 - 06 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

hel stainles steel fitting, with a tarti carbon look cover.

ive heard that alloy ones will do that everytime
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PostPosted: 00:01 - 07 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmmm, I'm certainly glad I asked Keith to take a look at her now Thumbs Up, didn't fancy the idea of having the brakes fail on me! Shocked

In my defence, they were on the bike when I bought it Wink.
Initially I only took her round because she wasn't running quite right - misfiring & couldn't work out why?! Confused *sigh*

*Mutters about bikes supposedly being cheaper to run than cars* Laughing
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PostPosted: 00:11 - 07 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

DK do the downpipes for £199 in s/s. Think the mild steel ones are £165.

I know the s/s do not have the bottleneck in them like the standard system does, not sure on the mild steel. S/s look cooler too.Mr. Green

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PostPosted: 00:21 - 07 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

alloy arnt classed as road legal either i belive
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PostPosted: 00:24 - 07 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

*hides purple fittings* Shifty

Can I just replace the fittings rather than the whole lines? Confused

(mine are only a few months old so not corroded at all.)
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PostPosted: 00:26 - 07 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

depends what lines you have i beleive.

goodrich g-lines are a good one to get nowdays. come with a swivel fitting which you tighten up to avoid any kinks. and much neater
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PostPosted: 00:29 - 07 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

jayluvmito wrote:
alloy arnt classed as road legal either i belive


Perfectly road legal, although many places will strongly advise against using them on the road.

Zxr400er wrote:
Can I just replace the fittings rather than the whole lines? Confused


Don't think you can, and it is the fittings that are the expensive bits anyway.

They corrode from the inside out, so the first you will know about any corrosion is when they crack and break.

All the best

Keith
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PostPosted: 00:30 - 07 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

AHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhh crud. Anyone got any stainless lines for a zxr400? Sad

(I wish I knew this before I bought them....)
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PostPosted: 00:37 - 07 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
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Yes, those hoses need replacing. Put it this way, we gave her a lift home rather than riding with the brakes in that state.


Was that referring to helens or the ones I just bought.... Shocked Know they're not stainless steel but would zinc plated be as bad as those anodised ones?

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PostPosted: 00:47 - 07 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think Helen needs to get the old toothbrush out and give those wheels a good scrub down if you ask me! Razz
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PostPosted: 00:50 - 07 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Zinc plated ones will be fine. It is just the alloy ones that are dodgy. Part of the problem with the alloy ones is that the anodising is there to prevent corrosion, and when you assemble them the braiding scratches the anodising away and allows them to start to corrode.

M1kes brakes had a similar problem last year:-

https://www.alfa-pages.co.uk/TempPicture/mikesBrakes.jpg

All the best

Keith
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PostPosted: 01:13 - 07 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aren't alloy ones really only designed for racing where they get used for about 200 miles in perfect conditions?

That bike's filthier than a dutch prostitute! Laughing
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PostPosted: 01:17 - 07 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
jayluvmito wrote:
alloy arnt classed as road legal either i belive


Perfectly road legal, although many places will strongly advise against using them on the road.



sorry, thats what i meant. a lot of places say not for road use. cant go wrong with sleved braided and stainless imo, will proberly outlast the bike.
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PostPosted: 01:29 - 07 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Josh|RD125LC wrote:
Think Helen needs to get the old toothbrush out and give those wheels a good scrub down if you ask me! Razz


Don't worry.....Thats on the list of things to do.....just need to stop being a dirty stop out long enough to be able to clean her at home! Razz
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PostPosted: 12:11 - 07 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

VFR400UK wrote:
Aren't alloy ones really only designed for racing where they get used for about 200 miles in perfect conditions?


Pretty much, and no real reason to use them for that. Fit new ones each year and they are probably going to be fine, especially when used on roads with no salt on them.

All the best

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PostPosted: 12:19 - 07 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nighteyes wrote:

In my defence, they were on the bike when I bought it Wink.

So you chose to buy a bike with dodgy brakes? Smile Razz
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PostPosted: 15:26 - 07 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably distrcated by some shoes at the time. Laughing

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PostPosted: 15:36 - 07 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Zxr400er wrote:
AHHHHhhhhhhhhhhhhh crud. Anyone got any stainless lines for a zxr400? Sad

(I wish I knew this before I bought them....)


I wouldn't worry mate.. corrosion only really applies to bikes that get ridden instead of sat in a garage being polished every day Thumbs Up

If you do start riding it then think about replacing the crappy alloy fittings in case of corrosion Wink
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PostPosted: 17:46 - 07 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

When did you last ride the KTM? Smile
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