Why is my dad like he is?

[Spike_R]

well, when i was 14 years old my dad moved to spain, he bought a motocross bike 50cc for me and my brother to ride, when we visited.

anyway, one day he got it out, filled it with fuel and took me up to the back tracks round the back of the villiage he lives on. he went round with me on the back, and then he tought me how to pull away etc, he was running after me as im going along at about 10mph lol (poor old git) and then eventually i progressed and he let me go out and practice by myself.

i had been riding it about under the agreement i wasn't allowed on the roads, which was fair enough, and i didn't..

anyway i asked him if i could go for a ride up to some english freinds house and he said its ok just i had to be careful, which i was. one day i was riding to a party, this is where its my fuckup, i had a girl on the back who was wearing no helmet (she didnt want to mess her hair up... - typical woman) but i shouldnt have allowed this.

anyway, the bike only had low beam, and i kinda screwed up, i stacked it, came off the road coz i didnt see a corner, we both came off, i snapped my collar bone in half. of course i was uninsured, unlicensed, not permited to take passengers, she had no helmet etc etc.

anyway after hours of being in hospital (luckily she was uninjured) my dad had to go and talk to the police, he managed to get away with 1200 euro fine and the bike wasnt in that bad of shape..

anyway i come back to UK and 3 months later buy a bike, derbi senda, crashed it a few times nothing serious except for a non fault accident.

my bikes now been stolen and my dad really dosent want me getting a bike, he has offered to pay for a car, insurance lessons.. but not 1 penny towards a bike..

he had bikes all his life.. he crashed one too on the same road, and collapsed a lung...

what you reckon?

thanks,
spike
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[AcIdBuRnZ]

After your complete balls up in Spain, I think you were lucky you were even allowed near another bike, and even then you crashed that!

Accept the car offer, get a license and some proper road experience and prove to your folks that your not gonna kill yourself - I mean, how would they feel if they bought you a bike that you then went and killed yourself on? (not out the question with your record).

Seriously, get some road experience and show your responsible (taking a girl without a helmet - you stupid idiot ) then maybe approach your parents again in a couple of years.
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[yorkshirelad3]

if you wanna do it, do it.

hes been a 16? 17? 18? year old lad before,

my dad told me not to get a bike, but he knew that when i said im getting a bike, he knew i was getting a bike.

Just argue your tits off and prove that you are passonate enough about this to work your bollocks off and earn the amount of money you need independantly, i showed my dad that i can take on the responsibility, got my cbt passed and worked for every penny i have spent on the bike.

Last month ofr my 18th bday he gives me 300 to knock off the bike as he now realises i am capable of running the bike

[yorkshirelad3]

oh and btw, hes now wanting to get back into biking 2! just goes to show doesnt it

and also, your a prat for taking the lass on the bike! im not saying you were ok with that at all!

grow up and take on the responsibility, dont be calling your dad a cunt either, he got the 1st bike for you and your bro,

you got a bad reputation ,show him your worth trusting on two wheels again.

sorry to seem harsh, but its the way i see things going if you are to be successful in getting a bike

[Flip]

You are lucky that girl is alive and you're moaning about your Dad??

Your Dad had offered to get you wheels because you got a bit of growing up to do yet.

Take it. Prove yourself to him and then get the bike.

[Spike_R]

but his argument about it is they are dangerous, thats the only thing.. then when i say they arent, i have nothing to back myself up, being in 2 accidents that have incurred broken bones i havent got the best backup when i say of course they are safe..

he says, get a car, you can take people about, they are safe, they are warm etc etc.. he goes through the advantages and says dont bother with a bike...

he KNOWS i will buy one though.. mind you him in spain its not like he can stop me.

however my mum dosent really mind i dont think, after all she sees it as a way to get me out the house, it means i am indepentant, not badgering her for lifts etc.

infact today she found out the extra cost of me going on her car insurance, £250... not too bad i guess! so looks like im going to be learning to drive ...

i dont see how parents cant understand that younger people just wanna have fun, i mean.. he had a bike when he was my age.. why should he do his best to make it difficult for me to have one..

i blame him, he introduced me.. lol

about the girl, that is quite honestly the most shit scary experience i have had in my life, the most stupid thing that could have had some major concequences.. and i mean MAJOR..

at the time of the accident i felt like shooting myself, dont lecture me on wether i was right or wrong, i can still remember the accident and the traumer.. dont want the lecture again. its not going to happen!
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[yorkshirelad3]

was nearly killing the girl fun? btw, i take it you were wearing a skid lid that night? irresponsible,

frm your post so far, i wouldnt trust you on a bike either, you seem way too laid back about the dangers we all face.

do it, buy a bike, but dont be a prat, know how to control your vehicle properly and try and take advice from others!

[yorkshirelad3]

ok will leave it with the girl, but please, after my accident today and the pain im in right now i dont like to hear people taking it so lightly.

Just listen too your dad and find some advice. try get him involved in your biking, tell him about things you do well on the road.

[Spike_R]

i understand how it looks upon me.

i am not the best of riders, i can ride safely and generaly speaking do. i was wearing a helmet while i was on the bike, she was offered a helmet which she put back into the house. my helmet was trashed, it was an MX helmet and i got gravel embedded into my eyelid which was later removed my a scalpel, not something i want to repeat.

i am a very cautious rider i would say, having been in a non-fault accident i realise one of the dangers of being on a bike is that if a car hits you, innevitably you get hurt.. personaly a 4x4 pulled out on me when i was just going to work, broke my wrist and cut myself up a bit. wrote the bike off.

apart from that ive spilled the bike twice, once in snow coming off the main road onto a much more icey residential street and it lost grip, secondly in the rain going to fast round a corner, powerslide into a highside, i didnt injure myself from either crash or damage the bike.

how come im such a bad rider? ... how long is it going to take before he understands i am sensible on the road? he dosent live in the UK so he can hardly see me ride and choose for himself.
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[yorkshirelad3]

like i said, keep him informed with whats happening on the road and how you dealt with it.

I tell my dad about the inccidents on every ride i undertake, he likes too know whats happening to me whilst out there.

Keep him involved and he will start to understand, if you make a mistake be honest, tell him and tell him how your going to do it differently!

[Dom_]

[Flip]

[yorkshirelad3]

i actuall have told my dad about my first toe down, peg didnt toutch, but my toe slider did,

he just raised his eyebrow n i shut up!

[Spike_R]

i agree, but it feels like im being restricted.. if you get me...

if i talk to my dad on the phone and mention something about a bike, he kinda says ok and changes the subject, i dont think hes intrested, but well i'll give it a go and say something like, i rode back from such n such and rode every corner perfectly , didnt exceed the speed limit (honest) had a really great ride and blah blah see what he says..

ah well, cheers for help all

need oldies opinions sometimes u see
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[Spike_R]

i am 17 now, had a bike on the road for a full year (almost it got stolen about 4 weeks ago) purchased in september 2004. so i have a decent ammount of road experience imo.
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[yorkshirelad3]

oi, im only bloody 18!

[Flip]

[yorkshirelad3]

hit the nail on the head wouldnt you say flip?

doesnt want old spike milligan here to end up the same way!

[Spike_R]

lol... me thinks that had a huge influence on that..

he did EXACTLY the same thing, missed a corner on the same crappy road... he crashed a BMW 1 litre..

ah well, nite fella's
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[Flip]

I think so dude.

We have an experienced biker who knows the pain of hitting the tarmac and his son has trouble staying rubber side down.

Maybe you should wait a little bit. A year or so 'til he thinks you're a bit more mature??

That really is the the nails head.

You Dad is looking out for you.

[yorkshirelad3]

wow, only like 15 posts to get round to this.

My dad never sustained more that gravel rash in his 70's biker era, but warned me about his riding exploits, crashing into a bus stop because he wanted to impress some girls with a wheelie, or racing his mate, and being too busy giving him the rods to realise he needed to brake fast or risk doing a superman over the traffic island he was heading towards!

all this in a denim jacket, jeans, open faced lid and a pair of dockers.

Tut, only cool thing about it is that it was a RD250 he rode!

[Robby]

So you were a silly boy when you were 14 and had a nasty crash.

You get a second chance and fucked up again, crashing "a few more times". Proof enough you're too silly to be on the road on a bike.

If I remember rightly you also totally fucked up an engine rebuild on your 50.

You're also being offered free driving lessons by the sound of it. Have some proper lessons, learn how to use the roads properly, grow up a bit.

[Flip]

FFS! That's so typical of you Robby.

Stop pussy footing around and get to the point.

[stinkwheel]

Well, I think coming home with a test pass certificate would speak volumes about your riding ability a fait accomplis so to speak.
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[dave1rs]

dont see the problem..he is offering lessons etc so take them,if your old enough to ride a bike then your old enough to save and buy your own..from your first post it seems to me your gripe is why wont he give you money towards a bike...why should he?

take what he has offered and sort the bike yourself.