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Walloper
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PostPosted: 14:37 - 16 Aug 2005    Post subject: Rossi to compete at 125cc Reply with quote

Would Rossi compete at 125cc and would it be as good to watch?
Someone has stated that you don't need as much skill to ride a big bike as you do to ride a small bike.
How do I get a poll to find out how many would like to see the change for the world champion and watch him race?
Am I talking shyte again?
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 16 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

He's already won the 125cc world championship, when he was in his teens Wink

Though I have heard talk he was discussing with his bosses about racing in both the MotoGP and 250GP classes on the same day.
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 16 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yes

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PostPosted: 14:44 - 16 Aug 2005    Post subject: Re: Rossi to compete at 125cc Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:
Would Rossi compete at 125cc and would it be as good to watch?
Someone has stated that you don't need as much skill to ride a big bike as you do to ride a small bike.


I think you have perhaps missed the context that me and others were saying a big bike needs 'less skill' - as very few people ride 1000cc anywhere near the limits that the same people might ride say a 400cc on the road. Thus 'skill' was, in my case at least, mentioned in relation to a 'normal' riding speed.

One of the reasons I don't use my zx9 on the road (apart from no MOT or insurance) is that it's not very satisfying because you have to be going incredibly quickly to feel like you're even slightly trying, while my rs250 can be going relatively slowly and feel like you are utisilising some skills to keep it going at that speed.



For the record, I would like to see Rossi race in 125s instead of moto-gp, though I suspect he would be an even more significant step above everyone else, due to being generally considered the best by far, short track racer in the world.
Maybe he should be put on a CBR125? Smile
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 16 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rossi is to old to compete in 125's anyway.

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PostPosted: 14:53 - 16 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

maurice wrote:
He's already won the 125cc world championship, when he was in his teens Wink

Though I have heard talk he was discussing with his bosses about racing in both the MotoGP and 250GP classes on the same day.


yeh it was in mcn a couple weeks back, so its probably not true. It would be good if he did race in both classes thou Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:56 - 16 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

VTR SP1 wrote:
Rossi is to old to compete in 125's anyway.

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Why's that ?
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PostPosted: 14:57 - 16 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because there is an age limit in the 125 gp's and he is to old.

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PostPosted: 14:58 - 16 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

VTR SP1 wrote:
Rossi is to old to compete in 125's anyway.

Is there an age limit?
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PostPosted: 15:00 - 16 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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125cc MotoGP sets 28 year old age limit
The 125cc category will change next season. Riders older than 28 cannot participate in this competition which means that practically half of the current grid will be obliged to retire or will have to change category.

Looks like it, Rossi should still be ok though.
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PostPosted: 15:01 - 16 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought the guy that won it last time was about twenty something? That might not have been motogp though, I think it may have been the aprilia125 race with the powerbikes tour thingy. Confused
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PostPosted: 15:02 - 16 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh G, you're a PURIST that's what it is.
You're forgiven.
I know exactly what you mean by what you say. But it is maybe more perception than event we talk about there.

I would never be happy wringing the neck of a 600 to get the same performance I get with my 955.

I don't know any of my mates that would do it for any other reason either other than for a bit of nostalga.

And I am not poo pooing smaller bikes. I took a long time to get to what I have and had bucket loads of fun doing it.

I ride with guys using ltr bikes and I had a 600. Yes, I could keep up. But it's much better when you don't need to have the engine screaming it's head off all the time to do it.

I wouldn't watch Rossi on 125s either for the record.
125s or 250s don't break out in a rash of power driven tank slappers like ltr bikes do. Yeeee Haaaaa.....! Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:03 - 16 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

VTR SP1 wrote:
Because there is an age limit in the 125 gp's and he is to old.

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So where did you get this info from ? Seeing as its wrong Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 15:06 - 16 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr.Everready wrote:
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Yes

hth
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Thanks for that informed input Mr. Eveready. You were not really supposed to answer that bit though Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 16 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you ask silly questions............... Razz
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PostPosted: 15:08 - 16 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eurosport. They said earlier in the year that the age limit had been introduced and lots of the 125 riders had progressed to 250's.
They said it made it really a teenagers game and Rossi would not be able to race in it.

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PostPosted: 20:44 - 16 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

My 'little bike' was a RS125. I could ride it full throttle on the edge and it always felt secure and AWESOME on the twisties. Like on the way to Scotland last year when I totally scorched my mate on a 600 bandit through a set of about 5 'S' bends in very quick succession. Whilst whistling through there I realised how easy it was to thrash the lttle bike to the edge and how well it coped.

The same cannot be said however for my 'big bike'. Its a CBR600, it rides excellent is quick enough and loves a good thrashing. It just wouldnt go around the twisiest of twisties with my pathetic skills until I had mastered a different type of weight, accelleration, lean etc.
On the 125 I was GOD (or at least I thought so!), then on the 600 found myself to be just some sort of hedge seeking wimp!

Its taken me a year to get to the point I'm at now but took just 5 months to get to a much better point on the RS.

After rambling like that Im struggling to find a point, guess its just that the littler machines are easier to ride fast in my opinion (or feel like you are riding fast), and possibly easier to master for the average bloke. If a man has the natural talent to wrestle a 240hp machine around the track very very very very quickly, then he's not going to struggle taking a step back! Wink
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PostPosted: 21:50 - 16 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Walloper wrote:

I would never be happy wringing the neck of a 600 to get the same performance I get with my 955.

I ride with guys using ltr bikes and I had a 600. Yes, I could keep up. But it's much better when you don't need to have the engine screaming it's head off all the time to do it.

I would be happier ringing a bikes neck. I have a tuned, race spec suspension zx9 in the garage but have chosen to spend money buying a rs250 to ride on the roads.
If I ride the zx9 at 75% I am going bloody fast without trying. Riding at 90% on the road and I'm staying at ridiculous speeds and it still doesn't really feel like I'm achieving - yes I'm going very fast, but the bike is doing a lot of that.
On the RS250 it feels like I'm actually using that 90% of the bike's abilities, if I am.

For me, the fun in bikes is 'using' them - I don't really enjoy just 'pootling' around and find I can use a smaller bike much more fully.
However, as far as 'laziness' goes, a big bike is very nice - you can just turn the throttle on the motorway and go, whatever gear you are in, you'll still kick that Porsche's arse Razz.

On the track, however, I found I was actually quiker on a 600 than the zx9 - I was happyier to really thrash the 600, while the 900 I was a bit more worried about it kicking back.
However, how this would change if I rode a big bike a few times is another matter.
(Though jumping on an r1 after my r6 at snetterton showed 2secs nocked of my laps times straigt away, but then that's not /that/ muc.h)

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I wouldn't watch Rossi on 125s either for the record.
125s or 250s don't break out in a rash of power driven tank slappers like ltr bikes do. Yeeee Haaaaa.....! Laughing

Don't get 11 bikes within 1 second of each other in moto GP however Smile.
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 16 Aug 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the only realistic option is for rossi to race a 125 against the litre bikes Laughing

If he were to try and race 125's again he would be a bit hopeless as he has now adapted to the bigger bikes. give him a few practise races and he would remember how it was done then probably use the tricks he has picked up since his 125 days to fuck off and leave everybody even more so than usual Wink
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