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Liverpoolrobb...
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PostPosted: 13:05 - 11 Sep 2005    Post subject: Law on Mini and midi motos Reply with quote

what happens if u get caught riding them either on road or on pavement? apart from it beeing crushed?
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PostPosted: 13:06 - 11 Sep 2005    Post subject: Re: Law on Mini and midi motos Reply with quote

You can get done for riding with no tax/mot/insurance, for riding on the pavement and all sorts of others things if they feel like it I suspect.
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 11 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are under 16 chances are you will just get told to go somewhere else and be threatened that your parents will be in trouble if you do it again. Over 16 I'm not sure, they can probably put something on your license.
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PostPosted: 13:34 - 11 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

you'll end up dead like my mate when he got hit by a car.
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PostPosted: 13:37 - 11 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Someone I know was caught on a mini moto. Waiting to go to court for no tax, no MOT, no insurance, no license.


Probably didnt help that he tried to run Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 11 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

SoND wrote:
Someone I know was caught on a mini moto. Waiting to go to court for no tax, no MOT, no insurance, no license.


Probably didnt help that he tried to run Rolling Eyes

i had the dog unit afther me a few hours ago cause i went the park lol got a warning!
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PostPosted: 20:55 - 11 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

just go on a track.. fun and legal Wink
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 11 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

The bikes are not legal for use on the road. Virtually nobody will have insurance on them. And I am sure they can think up a shed load more things to charge you with.

All the best

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PostPosted: 21:40 - 11 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

lilrich wrote:
just go on a track.. fun and legal Wink

Yea, a lot more fun on a track in my opinion.
Minimoto isn't exactly the most practical of transportation - mountain bike is generally more useful.
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PostPosted: 22:48 - 11 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bit of a strange / stupid question, but could a mini moto be made road legal??????
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PostPosted: 00:29 - 12 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

monkey bikes are road legal. they are a bit bigger than a midi moto but lower power.

i doubt you could make a mini moto road legal but im not sure why

mini motos are only about as fast as a pushbike so are no more dangerous, and if you come off you are nearer the ground so you dont have so far to fall, so it doesnt hurt as much.

The only reason i can think of for justifying allowing pushbikes on roads and not mini motos is cos of visibility.

i think a car park which isnt being used, is a better bet than the pavement
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PostPosted: 00:34 - 12 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

fast_tzr wrote:
you'll end up dead like my mate when he got hit by a car.


Amen.

I've seen them on the road but please for God's sake don't ride one. They are so so so shite for visabilty to other drivers. You can be behind a car and you'll be completely invisable. It's incredibly dangerous. Good for a quick blast (done it on my cousin's) up and down the road. But proper road riding its one of the worse ideas ever.
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PostPosted: 00:37 - 12 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

COLINWALL wrote:
monkey bikes are road legal. they are a bit bigger than a midi moto but lower power.

You can get monkey bikes with 110cc engines these days.



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i doubt you could make a mini moto road legal but im not sure why

You can, it's been done.

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mini motos are only about as fast as a pushbike so are no more dangerous, and if you come off you are nearer the ground so you dont have so far to fall, so it doesnt hurt as much.

Decent ones will reach 60mph and more. There are now cheap chinese copies of some semi fast ones, but most aren't very good.

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The only reason i can think of for justifying allowing pushbikes on roads and not mini motos is cos of visibility.

And because they've got an engine - basically just a small scooter, so are liable to standard road laws. As I mentioned, you can make get them road legal, through an SVA test.
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PostPosted: 00:50 - 12 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrchips wrote:
If you are under 16 chances are you will just get told to go somewhere else and be threatened that your parents will be in trouble if you do it again. Over 16 I'm not sure, they can probably put something on your license.
100%, at age 16 and over you would have been nailed for three violations 9 poiunts in total, not sure on the christmas box appeal though, put ti this way you wouldnt be allowed to drive/ride for three years as you cannot take theory or practical with 6 or more points, it takes 3 years for poits to clear, ten for drink driving and some other serious violations.... if you get done for drink driving for the third time you get a TEN year BAN.... I wouldnt even try after that and would find a nice planet to go and live on Cool
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PostPosted: 00:53 - 12 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I heard on newsround quite a while back that some 12 year old kid got 3 points on thier license (should they chose to acquire one 5 years down the line) for riding a motorised scooter down the road. The manchester police said that it's classed as a powered 2 wheeler and thus, should be used off road. He will need to be licensed to use it on road with tax and insurance. What right c*nts. This isn't even a mini-moto!
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PostPosted: 01:10 - 12 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

My brother got done for being on one.
Also unless you have express written consent you can't ride them on say a field. And as the council will never say yes you get done.
Also actually applies to private land as well now apparently.
You can also be prosecuted under the new anti social laws which means they can confiscate it there and then.
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PostPosted: 01:14 - 12 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why would you want to ride them things? I can understand racing them at a track but just riding them on a road is rather ridiculous... :O
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PostPosted: 01:20 - 12 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

leicester_city21 wrote:
Bit of a strange / stupid question, but could a mini moto be made road legal??????


I think it would be very difficult. Whilst surfing the net for info on motorised bicycles, i came across https://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~pattle/nacc/arc0497.htm.

Basically, some guy tried to register his bicycle and although he eventually succeeded, it seems that the DVLA inspection is very thorough and very safety-orientated. One of the requirements to be met is that the vehicle be of Road-worthy construction. I doubt any sane inspector will classify any minimoto as road worthy.
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PostPosted: 01:28 - 12 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just saw some kid pushing a monkey bike up the road with no lightings, indies or brake lights, and get on it, fire it up (with no gloves, boots, clothing or helmet) and go up the road... couldn't see him from 5 metres away...
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PostPosted: 01:40 - 12 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's silly really.
My brother wants to ride "real" bikes but hasn't got a hope in hell now as he has 6 points.
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PostPosted: 02:26 - 12 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

mini motos and the like are the same as mopeds in the eyes of the law...

therefore you need a licence, insurance and road tax... mot technically too if age can be proven.

if you ride (eg under 16) , you would commit at least..

riding otherwise than in accordance with a driving license
no insurance
no tax
(no mot)

and likely fail to produce license, fail to produce insurance, mot ...

not to mention HOW the mini moto is ridden..

many people think that they are safe on a car park or public park...
however the highways act extends to road or other public place... (eg a place to where the public has access)...e.g. the car park of a public house in opening hours is deemed to be a public place.

keep it to the track or with permission of a friendly private land owner.

However also be aware that there is new legislation (section 59 Police reform act 2002) whereby if a vehicle is used in such a way likely to cause harassment alarm or distress to the public, it can be seized if an initial warning is not adhered to.....
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PostPosted: 04:21 - 12 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think it wd be great to have a road legal one
but i wd never go thru the hassle of this sva test or whatever
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PostPosted: 07:54 - 12 Sep 2005    Post subject: Re: Law on Mini and midi motos Reply with quote

Liverpoolrobbie wrote:
what happens if u get caught riding them either on road or on pavement?


You will get accused of being a chav?
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PostPosted: 07:55 - 12 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

COLINWALL wrote:
i think it wd be great to have a road legal one
but i wd never go thru the hassle of this sva test or whatever


aaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhh

ENGLISH, have you heard of it?
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PostPosted: 09:40 - 12 Sep 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

lwflee wrote:


Why didnt he just buy himself a £100 honda melody or something?

Would have saved himself a shit load of cash, and hassle.

Rolling Eyes
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