Peg Down or Knee Down

[NS125RK]

What do you find more difficult?

I passed my test about 3 months ago and am currently riding a restricted ER5. In the last couple of weeks I have managed to get the bikes peg down around corners without meaning too. But I have never felt like I have been in the position to get my knee down as I have never had to alter my body position on the bike, well to the extent of being able to reach the ground with my knee.

Whats your thoughts?

[Snake Eyes]

I would say Both, we've been riding about the same amount of time, im on an CBR 600 but can't seem to get it to lean very far without it wanting to sit back up again ? so I find both difficult !
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[Claud 14.7 to 1]

Depends entirely on the bike.

On a cruiser it'd be quite easy to ground the pegs, (as they are low to the ground already). Yet on, for example, one of the latest 600s sports bikes you'd find that getting you knee down would require less lean angle, particularly if you hang off a lot.

My thoughts are that you should try hanging off and sticking knee out. Often knee down is a good amount of lean before you start running out of tyre. If you are getting knee down on the road, I feel you are going plenty fast, and shouldn't have any need to ground your pegs (assuming your bike can take knee down before pegs down). Unless you do it by accident.

And no hanging off to an excess doesn't count.

[Dom_]

Agree with Claud.

Peg down on all bikes is at the limit of the bike, and there is no more lean (unless you can hang off any more than you are already doing) it is much easier to get the peg down on something like a cruiser or even cbr125, but on a new jap 6 you'd need a fair bit of lean before the peg scrapes. Anyone scraping the peg on a 999 must be going seriously fast...or crashing.

[feef]

can get my toes down on the thunderace...

that's with the balls of my feet on the pegs, my feet turned in so there's no significant overhang, and I'm using rearsets

but I can't get my kneedown..

not that I try.. I don't see kneedown as something I need to do on the public roads.

I sunscribe to "Fridge theory", ie you should ride in a way such that if you happen to encounter a fridge lying in the middle of the road, just around that next bend.. you don't come a cropper.

doesn't mean you aren't quick, does mean you live longer

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[levi]

well, currently i find knee down alot harder as i have not tried it on my vfr 750 but before when i was trying i was on a gilera cougar :-p and well its a little hard to get knee down when the exause + pegs are so close to the ground haha
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[craigs23]

It depends on the bike, but I would have thought, generally speaking getting a peg down would be more difficult to getting your knee down, due to having to lean the bike over further.

Whether it's better or worse is, and always has been open for debate - mostly it comes down to rider confidence and feeling comfortable on their approach to riding.

I personally don't get my knee down, as I would have thought it would hurt a bit; what with a lack of knee sliders and all. Peg down - not a problem, though the pegs on my bike are relatively low anyway.

To adapt my riding style to accomodate quicker apex speeds I'm looking into getting my first pair of knee sliders (and some motorcycle trousers to go with them). Might be better for winter as well; hanging off the bike more for the same corner speed would give my tyres a bit more of a chance to find some grip.

[mrchips]

I think knee down on the GPZ would be near impossible but I've got the toe down plenty on it with my feet well up.
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[syris]

Pegs down on all 3 bikes ive owned, very close to getting my knee down on the GPZ though.

[johnsilva]

elbow down is the hardest, but i got it sussed.


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[Kram]

peg down is easy on the FZR600, ground of the peg protector on the right hand side, never attempted knee down though
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[DucatiEVO]

Knee down is fine; had the peg down a few times on my CBR1000RR, but it feels like its going to fall over by then so I generally avoid doing it.
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[G]

Usually peg down is because people aren't hanging off bikes enough.

When I'm hanging off the tyres usually let go before the pegs go down. So if your pegs go down, it can be avoided by hanging off more usually.

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[Sparks!]

Try getting the peg down on a supermoto so much fun.
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[lilredmachine]

no, the rest of the pics are in the photos section! Under kneedown at the stadium or something like that.
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[VFR400UK]

It depends how flexible you and your leathers are.

I've seen people getting their knee down on a bike whilst the thing is near upright!

Peg down is an actual measure of how far you are leaning, rather than hanging off the thing.

I allways am to have my knee down just before my peg goes down so i can gauge how far over i am.

[G]

[Dom_]

[squid36]

i`ve done a couple of trackdays now and for the life of me i still cant get my knee down! pegs/toes no problem (maybe its because i`ve got short legs lol)

[DucatiEVO]

Only reason I get my peg down is cos I want to, I've often thought of sticking my elbow out slightly to see if it will hit the tarmac, but I think that's risking a bit too much on the road.

I'll stick to the knee me thinks like this:

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[G]

I wanted to get my peg down a long time ago (before knee sliders) - camber changed while I was prolonging the scratching and I got half the rest of the bike down also .

Done the elbow down thing, took a bit of effort - was on a small roundabout and the tyres were right on the edge of traction while doing it.

Squid, hang off more - watch moto gp or similar and see how they hang off.

[cc123]

I'm grinding my toes and pegs all the time just now, just because I'm on the 'non-knee slider ' leathers at the min as I can't be arsed wrestling into my 1-piece numbers.

I find it takes more effort getting my knee down, more hanging off and concentrating less on riding the bike properly. And its getting to that time of the year where grip is starting to go a wee bit.
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