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Price, and the recommended application.
I personally wouldn't put Fully Synthetic in anything other than a high performance sports bike.
Semi synth is good in bikes that are 'normal' and cheaper.  |
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For a 1992 engine, either mineral or semi synthetic should be fine. As people have already said, a good quality multigrade 10w40 will be fine.
Also, don't scrimp with the oil filter. There probably won't be much difference between the price of a pattern part and the original - get the original if you can, even if it is at a little more cost. Deffo worth it!  ____________________ Dead nobodies in company cars... |
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I put 50k miles on a GPZ500s using castrol GTX and flogging it mercilessly, with an oil and filter change every 3k miles. The engine is still fine, just the rest of the bike is falling apart now (crashed too often, never washed and ridden through the winter). Same engine as yours but tuned to produce 10% more power.
Gericke do a deal where you get a free oil and air filter when you buy 5 litres of Motoul engine oil (about £24 all in). Worth having, and motoul is a pretty well regarded make of oil.
As a point of interest, the original kawasaki oil filters are often cheaper than the pattern ones. Strange but true! ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Engine bars usually bolt to the frame rather than the engine itself. The frames are different.
Oil, any good quality 10w-40 or 20w-50 engine oil should be fine providing: a) You change it every 3,000 miles and b) It doesn't have fancy additives (eg magnatech). They have been making those engines for the last 22 years, pretty much any oil you buy these days will be higher spec than the stuff it ws designed to run on. ____________________ “Rule one: Always stick around for one more drink. That's when things happen. That's when you find out everything you want to know.”
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Some research they had been doing showed that the same engines built to a better tollerance performed better and more efficiently on regular oil, than an average engine on fully synth.
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But this isn't comparing like with like. I rebuild my engines to tight tolerances and it has been shown that a good tight tolerance engine runs better on full synth than semi-synth.
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there IS a difference, you're right.. it's just not a practical,nor noticeable one for us mere mortals who aren't running cutting edge, highly tuned, well toleranced engines.
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Some of us actually run good tight tolerance engines on the road, I have one bike, GSXR750L that had a complete strip and rebuild 3000mls ago including new main and big end shells, cam-chain, skimmed and flowed head including new valve, seals and guides and dialled in cams.Every service the head comes off as well as the barrels to check the tolerances as well as pressure testing the oil pump, last service included new rings as they were slightly worn although not smoking.
I agree that most bikes wouldn't see the difference between synth and semi-synth but most new sports bikes in my opinion would as the tolerances are very tight. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 20 years, 154 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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