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Misc
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PostPosted: 09:06 - 01 Oct 2005    Post subject: Can you have too much security.. Reply with quote

I might be getting a little run around from my mate before i get my 400 & if it got knicked my insurance will be sky high, So I live in a high risk south London & i have a front garden (Grass) then a lampost right outside my gate.

What can i do.. Apart from lots of chains, Do disc locks with alarms work good & do bike covers with alarms work good, How do they get round this if they want something. & normal alarms so in total i would have.

2 Big chains one chaining the wheel to the lampost the other chaining the framework to it.
A disc lock(With alarm) A bike cover(With alarm) U-lock.

I cannot get a garage as it would give me no sunlight in my front room & there dear Smile

So i would like you're security ideas for someone like me whos bike will most probably be attempted.
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PostPosted: 09:50 - 01 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

You sound pretty secure already! But if they want it bad enough they'll still take it unfortunately Evil or Very Mad All i can suggest is either buy a plastic shed/shelter (if you got space) to put the bike in, either that or get a big ass dog. Thumbs Up Perhaps put up a fake cctv camera ? Worth a try.
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PostPosted: 09:57 - 01 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a very unsociaalble alsation who barks at anything that moves outside (can be annoying) but i suppose this would put em off a bit as i would let her out if anyone was near it.

I can't have anything like a shed as this would block my frontroom light Very Happy

Does having a immobiliser put thiefs off, Does this mean they cannot start it. If so how will they know it has one.

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PostPosted: 10:07 - 01 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Does having a immobiliser put thiefs off, Does this mean they cannot start it. If so how will they know it has one

Perhaps a little, but a determined thief will still steal the bike. Usually you get an led with the immobilizer to warn people that you have one fitted.
I just thought of something that helped when i lived at home, a good flood light with a movement detector. I reckon that would put off a thief being lit up while trying to steal your bike.
Just make sure you angle it correctly so it doesnt light up your neighbours!
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PostPosted: 10:14 - 01 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nb wrote:
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Does having a immobiliser put thiefs off, Does this mean they cannot start it. If so how will they know it has one

Perhaps a little, but a determined thief will still steal the bike. Usually you get an led with the immobilizer to warn people that you have one fitted.
I just thought of something that helped when i lived at home, a good flood light with a movement detector. I reckon that would put off a thief being lit up while trying to steal your bike.
Just make sure you angle it correctly so it doesnt light up your neighbours!


Ah yes forgot about them Smile They would help alot yes. Is it better if a chain is tight off the floor or loose, What are the best chains & alarms for a good price which can't be opened by a orange bic biro.
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PostPosted: 10:26 - 01 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say chain loose would be better. Harder to lever and harder to cut
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PostPosted: 10:30 - 01 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

primalcarl wrote:
I would say chain loose would be better. Harder to lever and harder to cut


& i know they will attempt to steal it thats what worries me, I've had a 125(Brand new) typhoon stolen 2x in 1 month 2nd time it was gone for good, My front door is gonna be on the latch lol as soon as i hear that alarm my dogs coming out.

But what happens if a few big bald headed blokes where stealing ya bike & you came out & they carried on Laughing Wtf do you do.
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 01 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you paint a lifesize mural of an rs50 on the side of your bike cover (both sides) that's one one to guarentee no-ones ever going to want to nick it.

plan b - paint your bike illuminiscent pink and green.

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PostPosted: 12:09 - 01 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

well you can never have too much security, just look at sparky's story...well your best bet would be one of those metal shed things, but as you cant get one of those, and you want the height of security, time for an underground garage I'm thinking Laughing
Lol no seriously just dig a hole, fill it with concrete and sink something very solid that you can chain your bike to into it, that will also stop it blowing over.
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PostPosted: 12:28 - 01 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol, Pink Confused Smile Would be off putting a bit.

I've heard about those underground garages, But i bet they cost a pretty penny. I was thinking of this.

https://www.secure-a-bike.com/
Not too tall, & i didn't mind shelling out on £200 then i saw the price Smile
Can you just buy the floor where it stands on as that would be good for my front garden.
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PostPosted: 12:32 - 01 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you not keep your bike in the house?
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PostPosted: 12:55 - 01 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

matts_power wrote:
Can you not keep your bike in the house?

Beat me to it Laughing Laughing
Or a camp bed (A portable bed for tented accomadation not some poofs mattress) next to the bike and a piece of string tied to your big toe as early warning.
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PostPosted: 13:04 - 01 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Misc wrote:
Lol, Pink Confused Smile Would be off putting a bit.

I've heard about those underground garages, But i bet they cost a pretty penny. I was thinking of this.

https://www.secure-a-bike.com/
Not too tall, & i didn't mind shelling out on £200 then i saw the price Smile
Can you just buy the floor where it stands on as that would be good for my front garden.


Dunno how much one of those is, but I have this one.

https://www.airflowsafe.com/motorcycle-garages.asp

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PostPosted: 13:31 - 01 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would camp outside but i'd probably get kniked Smile
That metal shed is good but it would reduce view from my front room a hell of alot, I wouldn't mind just the floor of a garage lol that must work as good as a lampost..? Smile
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PostPosted: 13:32 - 01 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could also try to wire up some of them flash bang cartridges, you know the ones that are loud as feck when they go off.
And i'd suggest when locking your bike up to leave no slack on your chain, ride tested some locks this month and a few of the chains broke after being hit with a very large sledge hammer! Shocked (mine included, cheap crap) So it would be harder for them to smash the chain if most of it is coiled around your bike. The lock that came out on top in rides test was a squire one https://www.bykebitz.co.uk/acatalog/Ride_Magazine___Best_Buy_Recommended.html
Also note that 1 or 2 of the other chains had squire padlocks on them! Says it all i think. I'll be buying one asap.
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PostPosted: 13:42 - 01 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Could they get through this if i had 2, Plus all my other shit inc 3 alarms, Without making any noise Confused I will be buying this chain(maybe cheaper on ebay) What are the best disclocks/alarms/immobilsers for the best prices. Share with me Smile Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:52 - 01 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

From sparkys thread when got bike knicked:


Bike stolen!!!!!!!

cant be, must be a joke! wheres Beadle???

nope its true, scrapes and loadsa down trdden grass in my garden and my ignition barrel casing in the grass!

it had 2 disk locks, 2 heavy duty oxford chains, steering lock on, ground anchor! how did the buggers manage that!
all locks have dissapeared!

Obviously never have too much security Sad
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PostPosted: 13:59 - 01 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sad That's mad, Theres so much worry because of these wankers it's not good for you. If my bike did get stolen my insurance will go up to about £4000 which i couldn't do as my insurance has always been high.

https://www.secure-a-bike.com/

This seems ideal for me but there over a grand, Anyone know of cheaper ones this size, This would help alot. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:03 - 01 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Misc wrote:
This seems ideal for me but there over a grand, Anyone know of cheaper ones this size, This would help alot. Thumbs Up



erm, I refer back to my previous posting Wink Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:08 - 01 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes i need a smaller one as this is the area i live in & it would block the front windows Smile
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PostPosted: 14:22 - 01 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like there's a path down the side of your house there. Why can't you take the bike round the back?
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PostPosted: 14:23 - 01 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

babyyam wrote:
Looks like there's a path down the side of your house there. Why can't you take the bike round the back?


you just beat me to it

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PostPosted: 14:25 - 01 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can probably have too much. You have to be able to get on the thing and ride it once in a while.

A couple of big chains securing it to something solid and an immobaliser should discourage the petty thief. If someone is going equipped to get past all that lot, it is gone no matter what you do.

As has been said, the only other alternative is to have it somewhere out of sight, this can be a double-edged sword though as it gives a thief somewhere out of the way to work on your security.

I don't think anyone does covert tracker systems for bikes yet? My boss has one on his Jag. When he puts it in 'park' mode the tracker 'pings' the sattelite every so often. If it detects it has moved off the spot it was parked, it reports itself stolen immediately and its location can be pinpointed to the police. (anybody in the industry reading this?)
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 01 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's great that alarm but would it be good ona bike as you might forget.

That house isn't my house it's the same sort of house i don't have a side alley Smile
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PostPosted: 14:34 - 01 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Do you have a back garden though? You could always push your bike through the house....... Thumbs Up
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