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Snake Eyes
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PostPosted: 14:35 - 05 Oct 2005    Post subject: Rockingham Picture Reply with quote

Finally got my pics back from my first track day ! they must have missed the KD Confused Laughing TBH thats probably as far over as I managed Crying or Very sad even more reason to go on another one Thumbs Up
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White Noise
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 05 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

get that arse off that seat! Laughing
who took the pics? track photographer?
its good to get some pics/vid of yourself as you can really show things that you didn't think that you where doing! Doh! Shifty
So whens your next booked for?
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 05 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go round a roundabout in circles. Find a good one and keep going faster and faster. When ya tread has reached the edge take a break.

The next time you go round it ass back in the seat and do ya leaning, as you lean move your knee round. Withing a few laps it should touch down! When it does get someone to take a picture, and dont post it unless it is a peg down too!
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White Noise
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PostPosted: 22:28 - 05 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sammyboy wrote:
dont post it unless it is a peg down too!


then post a picture of the resulting crash picture Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 05 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah it was the track photographer. I have been trying to move my arse a bit more after seeing these pics but I think its just going to take a bit of getting used to. Feels a bit wobbly at the moment Laughing but I've only been riding 6 months so theres plenty of time to get me knee down.

Hopefully we will be doing rockingham early next year ! (fingers crossed)
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PostPosted: 22:49 - 05 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been practicing my hanging off style on the road.

I can get my knee down fine etc (I do club racing, badly) but I've realised that I tend to keep my torso angled over the tank, rather than hanging that off at well.
I never seem to do it if I think about it in a race - concentrating on too many other things.
By doing it on the road it's a bit more instinctual when I'm on track.

Also, try to keep your arms parrallel to the ground, so they are bent at the elbow.
Straight arms limit movement and make the bike harder to control.

You also need to make sure you are fairly relaxed - when knee down you should be able to flap your arms (chicken style Smile ) while keeping the same line.
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 06 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

G wrote:
Also, try to keep your arms parrallel to the ground, so they are bent at the elbow.
Straight arms limit movement and make the bike harder to control.


Thumbs Up That's great advice for any type of riding - My guess is that (as you've fairly recently passed your test) you ride with straight(ish) arms without even realising it most of the time. If you make a concious effort everytime you ride to relax your arms then sooner or later it'll become second nature and you'll feel much more comfortable and at ease on the bike.

Of course i could be totally wrong Wink
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PostPosted: 17:46 - 06 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good photos, they allow you to see almost everything! Are they expensive?

G: Does flapping help?

Seriously Arms straight or too rigid can lead to tank slapping..... Try not to support your weight with your arms, allow your torso to do some of the work. Again all at your own pace.
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PostPosted: 10:11 - 07 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

nah, they weren't too bad, £25 for six photo's.

I do try to relax my arms, but I find having a dodgy back after a while i end up getting pain in my back (which isnt nice)

but it is good to see what I need to imrpove on and everyones help and advise is a good too.
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PostPosted: 10:49 - 07 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Flapping just proves to yourself you are relaxed - if you can't then you know you need to relax more Smile.

to get an idea of the difference straight and correctly position arms make, go along a straight (empty) road.
Hold your arms straight and wiggle the bars (so you do a little slalom.) Now do the same with your arms properly parrallel to the road - you should find a rather big difference in the speed of steering and thus the force needed to move the bike.
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PostPosted: 11:24 - 07 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will definitely give that a try, I did do that a bit with counter steering and saw what a big difference that made which has made some difference when cornering but still along way to go before im any good at counter steering, I guess practice makes perfect
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PostPosted: 13:11 - 09 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

snake ! your already counter steering! if you go round a corner on a bike you`ve got to ! (unless your going round very slowly) all you got to do is push a bit harder on the inside bar, if you scoot your arse back on the seat a bit this will bring your body down a bit further while keeping weight over the front wheel (so your back is still straight if you`ve got back probs) also if you drop your inside shoulder as you go into the corner this will help with the counter steering
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