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PostPosted: 23:34 - 11 Oct 2005    Post subject: Before i obstinately put the boot in... Reply with quote

My new flat mates gf is a mechanic, rally navigator and a very good driver. Knows what shes talking about etc so the bs detectors werent up and ready.

However today, she was adamant her 4 stroke sachs xtc 02 i believe went 90 mph.

Is that believable? Shes 9+ stone so its not that shes freakishly light, and it was on a flat road alledgedly, without having it pinned for miles (believe it was on a lane racing a mate alledgedly)

Anyone owned one? What do you think

Possible? 90mph? 4t 125?
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PostPosted: 23:37 - 11 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not ?
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PostPosted: 23:38 - 11 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

indicated, no reason why not afaik.

It is billed as a 'sports 125...'
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PostPosted: 23:38 - 11 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr.Everready wrote:
Why not ?


Ever rode a 4t 125?

She also reckons she had to derestrict it...
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PostPosted: 23:39 - 11 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

As an indicated speed, it's not unfeasible for a 125, considering RS125s can hit 120 indicated if they try.
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PostPosted: 23:39 - 11 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

cos most top out at about 80, though i have seen some guys in indonesia get their cbr125's to do 190kmh Shocked
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PostPosted: 23:44 - 11 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

can i point out again....

THE FOUR STROKE SACHS

IE like 12 bhp

RS's make about 30

Cos they are 2 stroke

Compare to 4t

and 190 kmh is 120ish mph... no way in hell on a cbr 125. At all. Ever. Different engine in maybe, but bear in mind a cbr 400 would struggle to that.
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PostPosted: 23:47 - 11 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

fast_tzr wrote:
i have seen some guys in indonesia get their cbr125's to do 190kmh Shocked

Sure that isn't the 150? Has a better head (4 vavle rather than 2?) I think as well as the extra capacity.
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PostPosted: 23:47 - 11 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Standard I have heard of them hitting 85 indicated (which is probably about 80 in reality). They make around 15hp standard.

Weight has next to no effect on top speed. Being small will have some effect though.

Depends what has been done to derestrict it. Apparently there is a 150 (ish) kit available for it. Think the engine is from a 150cc Suzuki anyway, just slieved down to 125 for the Sachs.

Also, is it a 4 stroke one, or could it be an older 2 stroke one?

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PostPosted: 23:48 - 11 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also, remember 85.6 counts as 90mph in 'pub speak' Smile.
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PostPosted: 23:49 - 11 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
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Standard I have heard of them hitting 85 indicated (which is probably about 80 in reality).

Weight has next to no effect on top speed. Being small will have some effect though.

Depends what has been done to derestrict it. Apparently there is a 150 (ish) kit available for it. Think the engine is from a 150cc Suzuki anyway, just slieved down to 125 for the Sachs.

Also, is it a 4 stroke one, or could it be an older 2 stroke one?

All the best

Keith


Defo a fourstroke, i asked that point many times.

Underseat and sounded proper according to her, which tends to quantify.

Her derestriction was taking a metal plate out alledgedly...
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PostPosted: 23:57 - 11 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

My mate used to have one, on rideouts he'd only ever get 80mph max out of it (indicated).
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PostPosted: 23:59 - 11 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

The gilera runner 125 4t can reach 80 ive heard but there shit slow. So probly with a few mods a 4t might do it?
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PostPosted: 23:59 - 11 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

I would say a maybe, on a good day with the wind behind, tucked right in. Indicated.

All the best

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PostPosted: 00:05 - 12 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

This Bike.

https://www.bikez.com/bike/19933/index.jpg

Googling it, suggests a top speed of around 75mph.
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PostPosted: 00:16 - 12 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whats it matter?. She's a girl so you should just smile and nod and appreciate that she tried to cope with the complexity of riding a bike and attempting to read the speedo at the same time without a bloke to show her how to do it properly. Laughing










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PostPosted: 00:17 - 12 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dibbs, that is the older 2 stroke version.

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PostPosted: 00:20 - 12 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

marki wrote:
Whats it matter?. She's a girl so you should just smile and nod and appreciate that she tried to cope with the complexity of riding a bike and attempting to read the speedo at the same time without a bloke to show her how to do it properly. Laughing

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Dude shes the butch. She knows a LOT about cars and bikes. Damn nigh on qualified mech an all.
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PostPosted: 00:25 - 12 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 00:27 - 12 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive ridden with one and rode one,when riding with one i got an indicated 75mph on my clocks

when riding the same bike its clocks said about 78mph.
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PostPosted: 00:31 - 12 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Biker_Dene on here has a 125 Sachs 4 stroke.........

We were on a little ride and he had a carrot on a length of stick pushed out infront to try and coax it into moving. (as per Blackpool donkey).

Dene hates his Sachs with a passion and TBH it sounds poorly but its only 8 months old.
If that bike can hit 90mph i shall bare my ass in Debenhams window.!
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PostPosted: 00:31 - 12 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

bonny_ricardo wrote:
marki wrote:
Whats it matter?. She's a girl so you should just smile and nod and appreciate that she tried to cope with the complexity of riding a bike and attempting to read the speedo at the same time without a bloke to show her how to do it properly. Laughing

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Dude shes the butch. She knows a LOT about cars and bikes. Damn nigh on qualified mech an all.


Ok so the first bit was a joke but If you believe she is soooo good then why are you questioning her? It was just a story she was telling, everyone makes up the speed they were travelling, by accident or design, don't mean a thing.
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PostPosted: 00:38 - 12 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 00:41 - 12 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

marki wrote:


Ok so the first bit was a joke but If you believe she is soooo good then why are you questioning her? It was just a story she was telling, everyone makes up the speed they were travelling, by accident or design, don't mean a thing.


She probably is good at what she does but might not understand how badly inaccurate speedos can be. My speedo has hit 90 before but I know for a fact it wasn't doing anywhere near it.
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PostPosted: 00:58 - 12 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are sure of course that she was so adamant that it actually went 90 rather than just indicating it? She might just not have specified it very clearly. My bike's had 120 mph on the speedo before now... Smile
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