RS250 or VFR400?

[Couger]

Hiya everyone,

Have been toying with the idea of an RS250 as my next bike for a few days now, primarily because of their relative cheapness and stunning looks.

What are your views on going for such a bike as opposed to a VFR400? I've heard that the RS can go just as fast and can slaughter most things in the twisties, is this a reality?

Also does the RS sound as bad as the NSR? lol

Cheers,
Cougs.
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[Demonic69]

Go for the RS if you can do your own engine rebuilds
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[kevo]

Hiya,

The RS250 is a lovely bike, power is similar to the VFR400 and RVF400. The only thing I would say is corner speed on the RS250 is great but you have to work very hard at it. Keeping the revs going within it's powerband. Drop below that and you'll dog through the corner. The 400 obviously has alot more to give a lower revs without having to downgear.

If I had the choice I would opt for the VFR, that's not because I have an RVF either but I have tried both bikes and prefered the power delivery on the 400 over the 2stroke screamer.

Best way to decide would obviously be to ride both bikes and come to your own decision.

Regards,
Kevo.

[Kris]

Depends also if you intend to use it just as a toy (RS250) or as a toy/commuter (vfr4) because 2-stroke is expensive and as deano says, it'll need engine rebuilds if you rack up the miles.
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[Couger]

Cheers for the help guys.

I'm anxiously in need of a new bike, but have to wait till may for the cash ,im also toying with the idea of putting my dads 87' VFR750 on the road and riding that with 33bhp while he's in Kuwait?

Cougs.
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[Evilbob]

rs250 i think sounds the nackers mate, but if u are a 33bhp?? and u would actually like to be legal then i would have thought a rs250 restricted would be no fun at all:-(??????????
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[Couger]

I do have to be honest and say that I would run the VFR400/RS full power, but if I was to jump on the 750 for a interlude period then I wouldn't want that much power from a bike which is as heavy as that, just yet.

Cheers!
Cougs
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[Mr C]

Dunno how many others here have ridden either or both but I used to have an NC24 (VFR400) and I would definitely recommend it as probably a lot easier to ride than the RS without taking away any fun.

I think the comment that the RS is faster through the twisties very much depends on the rider and kevo is definitley correct, having ridden some rev hungry strokers in my life, if you get it wrong (which is often), you can wind the throttle on at the apex with only one gear too high and end up nearly falling over as spectacularly nothing happens and you are overtaken round the outside by tractors and milk floats.

Conversely wind it open in the right gear with just too little traction and high/lowsides are only a moment away as the narrow power band surges in.

Stick with the mighty VFR400, I had great fun with mine and you'll learn loads without getting frustrated with a totally committed racer like the RS - it's a race bike with lights really and a great step to bigger 4 stroke tackle, which is where it's at really.
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[Couger]

Cheer for the info.

From the looks of whats been said the RS is a pretty commited bike. I've only riden a CG and an NSR so maybe the VFR would be the safer and more learner friendly bike.

I could go for an RS in a few years when I get some more experience under my belt? Its a bugga though, they are gorgous.

Anyone got any thoughts on putting the VFR750 back on the road, restricting it and riding it for a few months till I can afford a new bike?

Cougs
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[Mr C]

fuck restricting it, it'll probably be more dangerous without the power to keep it upright....

buy the NC30, cheap, gorgeous, bezerk fun

in a few years when you can afford it, your aspirations will have moved from the RS250 to.....

Aprillia do a very nice RSV-R .. I borrowed one for a day once and clocked 148 on the "max speed recording" speedo (not me honest occifer) and had me knee down everywhere which I just don't do on the road on my ZX9-R.
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187.3bhp = 201mph

[Robby]

tss. Particularly at mo.

[Couger]

The 750 idea is for a number of reasons, namely we have one! lol

It was the first bike I ever saw and always wanted to ride it, coupled with the fact the insurance isnt banzia made me think it was a good idea. My concerns are mainly that I'm 5' 6/7" and its a feckin monster in terms of weight.

Its been off the road for a few years and so it would need full service, MOT, Tax, and probably a few new parts, any idea what I might end up paying for it?

Cheers,
Cougs
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[Robby]

oooh standing VFRs. evil.

well my NC24 had been standing for 3 years at the local shop. getting it back on the road i had to replace the Reg/rec (60 quid), alternator (70), Ht leads (fiver and a couple of hours), air filter (15), oil (20), oil filter (3), tank sealant (15), tyres (120), spark plugs (35), numerous other little bits.

then labour.

thats a pretty bad case tho, i dunno what the electrics are like on the VFR750. give it a go if you have time and a touch of cash.

[Doddmaster]

I'd have the RS. VFRs are common as muck

[M1ke]

i second that although im probably biased since i own an aprilia



the rs250 handles better and is the ultimate 2 stroker that is reasonably priced. The insurance on it isnt actually as bad as i thought! i just got quoted 495 pounds TPO and im 17 (i lied and said i had passed my test tho!)

The rs250 is a proper race bike with the specs to go with it, a hell of alot of fun with that power band! me wants!

[Danny]

[WildGoose]

yeh i want one of those better looking IMO anyway than the RS, and japanese over italian anyday even though the engine in the RS will probly be more reliable cos its a later version of the same thing
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[usual G answer]
If you don't just want a weekend fun bike it might be worth considering something like a Bandit 6 etc, still sporty enough to keep up, but a bit more forgiving and more 'all round' ability
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[batman]

the rgv isnt as fast as the rs, even tho its ligther and is the donor engine
the difference is small tho
i have a 96 chesterfield rs which i bought because i cant be arsed with top speeds and i think its the nicest lookin bike ever made, theres none in ireland so it gets appreciated more than most things on the road by those who know about bikes :)
as was said the rs is more commited, and not as user friendly, but the 10-11500 powerband is a feelin like no other, as for sound, its like a deeper nsr sound up to 9000, where it then sounds like a chainsaw bein put thru a megaphone!

[Stew]

Yeah get an NC30. Fun and practical so long as you dont take many pillions (not that an RS250 is good for pillions either). I had my NC30 last year and would probably still have it if M hadnt gone and nicked it from me when she passed her test. Also if you are 5'6" you will probably fit it so well as the bike was probably designed with people of your proportions in mind.

[Danny]

[Doddmaster]

The RS250 has a slightly upgraded, slightly more powerful engine than the RGV, with no more body mass, so according to the stats it *should* be slightly faster

[batman]

also accordin to every available piece of information the rs250 is faster than the rgv, even rgv owners will tell u, in stock form this is
the difference is minimal, especially in a straight line, but the chassis is much better
not sayin the rgv is bad now

[Danny]

Ok, thx just wondering.

[Scooby]

Spend £600-700 on an RS250/RGV250 and you can get them upto 75 odd bhp as well.
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