Smartwater

Bendy · Mrs Sensible Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Karma :

Anyone know how you change the ownership of a bike with the Smartwater guys? You get a card if you're the first owner, but I'm the third and the insurance spods want proof that it's got SW.

If they're so smart, why don't they give you a couple of cards to pass on when you sell the bike Rolling Eyes

WildGoose · White Van Man Joined: 20 Mar 2002 Karma :

cos water isnt all that smart
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Bendy · Mrs Sensible Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Karma :

water's dumb. it should be a gas, but it's too thick to realise it.

Hex · Party Boy Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

if you dont get any answers before tommorow I'll let you know when I'm at work (my mate has my old bike and all the smartwater docs that went with it, so I'll look on them for you)

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Bendy · Mrs Sensible Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Karma :

That'd be grand if you can shed any light on it. I've got the certificate for the CB (made 2 photocopies of the card you had to send away) but it says nowt about what you do when you sell it Confused

Hex · Party Boy Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

actually never even thought about it when I sold him the bike!

I gave him all the documentation etc that came with it when it was bought and applied - I'll have a look tommorow as all the documentation is at work (as he was sorting his insurance etc out at work today-he's just done his CBT and as such busting to get out Smile

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so I shall have a look for you tommorow - no problems
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Major_Grooves · The Doctor Joined: 10 May 2002 Karma :

With Alphadot I just phoned up the company to tell them the owner of the bike had changed. They then sent me out a new certificate and I sent that to the insurance company.
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Bendy · Mrs Sensible Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Karma :

"What happens if I want to dispose of something I have marked?

You should declare to the new owner that the item is forensically marked with your SmartWater code. This alone may be perfectly acceptable if the next owner knows you and you know them. However, it is better if the new owner puts on their own SmartWater mark. Should the item subsequently be sent for analysis, two 'fingerprints' will be detected and two names will show up on the database. The police will then be able to determine which of the two names has lost the item. The important thing is to provide the police with a starting point, and an 'audit trail', instead of them having no clue whatsoever as to ownership or where to begin looking. "

Cunning! They want you to buy a new smartwater kit, thieving bastards.

I'm gonna ring them tomorrow, now that I've finally found a number Confused

Danny · Ask Me About Stoppie School Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Karma :

I think my bike has smartwater fitted 'cos there is a sticker on the back.
Anyone know how i can get it re-registered to me?

Bendy · Mrs Sensible Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Karma :

That's what I'm attempting to find out.

Danny · Ask Me About Stoppie School Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Karma :

hmm skim reading has failed me again Embarassed

Bendy · Mrs Sensible Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Karma :

Smartwater Europe - 01952 222706

I've sent them a mail, I'll ring 'em if they dont get back to me before lunch tommoz

Danny · Ask Me About Stoppie School Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Karma :

thx

, keep us posted Cool

Guest · Posted: 21:22 - 03 Mar 2003 Post subject: Re: Smartwater

Danny · Ask Me About Stoppie School Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Karma :

Bendy · Mrs Sensible Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Karma :

M1ke · Ped Boi Joined: 11 Jun 2002 Karma :

The area code on that phone number is like 15 miles away from me Smile

Never knew they were based that close to me

Wingchunal · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Jun 2002 Karma :

I thought the smart water was fitted when the bike was made Rolling Eyes

i never had a certitcate with the nsr, but i have with the new one!
Stupid insurance company wanting detail grrrrrr Mad

like your not paying them enough money for nothing!

Ste · Not Work Safe Joined: 01 Sep 2002 Karma :

Smartwater is some shit sprayed all over everything on the bike, from what honda told me. How you could fit a new load of this is beyond me... Confused

All I got with mine was a photocopy of the certifacte, and that was it Confused

Bendy · Mrs Sensible Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Karma :

It comes in little bottles and you can paint it on. Then, under analysis, the forensics dudes would get 2 signatures instead of one, and would reconcile it against the DVLA records to show that you were the current owner and not whoever registered it the first time around.

Sounds like a scam to keep selling £50 Smartwater kits if you ask me Confused

Annabella · Like a person, only smaller Joined: 03 Feb 2002 Karma :

Isn't there something with Smartwater whereby you have to keep paying installments to have your data kept on the database?

When I was looking at security for the CBR I researched it, decided it was too expensive and went for datatagging....

I'm not sure, but I think the original dealer who fitter the smartwater pays the fees, so it would presumably be them you have to contact?

Alternatively, you could send Dodd for a walk (that's a Telford number, one of the industrial estates over his end methinks starting on the 2...), and he can go and beat them into changing the details!
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Scooby · Scrappy Doo Joined: 26 Mar 2002 Karma :

I never even declared SmartWater on my NSR insurance. It's something like that technicality that they'd fuck you over on if you were to claim. I tried insurance quotes with SmartWater and without it, and it really is a con, there was about £8 difference and for all the hassle is it's easier just to pay £8 more.
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Bendy · Mrs Sensible Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Karma :

That's exactly what I was starting to think. Reckon I'll ring the insurers and tell them to ignore it - it's there as a deterrent and would technically help me find the bits, but it's not worth risking a non-payout over.

Danny · Ask Me About Stoppie School Joined: 26 Jan 2003 Karma :

I called Smart water up today.
I am getting them to check if Smartwater has been fitted to my bike. They said if it has been fitted then all i have to do is fax/mail in a copy of V5. Cool

Bendy · Mrs Sensible Joined: 10 Jun 2002 Karma :

hmmm. well lemme know how it comes out. i haven't got my v5 back from the dvla yet anyway, so it proves even less Neutral