What beamer?

[mattgt]

I'm thoroughly depressed. I was taking a friend out for a spin on the back of my RVF400, having a bit of fun and making a lot of noise. Anyway, pull up to these lights with this posh looking dude in a beamer on my right. I have no idea what make it was. Anyway, he starts revving and so I give in (weak I know) and decide it's a race. I would say I'm quite a good starter, but this guy had a few lengths on me by the next lights! I was so depressed I had to stop! I haven't been beaten off the lights since I was riding a piaggio scooter years ago, let alone a beamer, they don't know the brake pedal from the accelerator! What to do!!! I recon it was totally tonned up under the bonnet, but is this really possible? Please tell me someone feels my pain...

[Nb]

Perhaps it was an m3 csl ? Or the new m5. And i know what you feel, i set after an audi s4 the other day but since im a noob he blew me away.
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[Rookie]

M3 or M5 in their race mode would thrash you after a short way, they are amazing cars, 2 year waiting list on the new M3.

[dodsi]

I had a race against a subaru impretza and owned him. That was funny, if he had not lost his bottle he could easily have owned me at higher speeds.

[G]

How good are you with starts?

Was the front just about to lift off the floor?

With a pillion your center of gravity is further back and you're more likely to wheely, so can't accelerate as hard.

As with any good start, the front wheel should be at the point that it's just about to wheely. On a sports 400 you'll probably need to slip the clutch quite a lot to get this right.

[philcxiv]

[G]

400s can still beat 99.9% of cars off the lights, just takes a bit of skill against the slightly faster ones.

Shouldn't be any slower to 30 with a pillion than a bigger bike with one.

[Wave2k]

i managed to beat a cl55 AMG off the lights on my 400 not for that long though.
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[kb-zxr]

If it has grills about half a foot above the front wheels it was a M.

3.2 litre i believe, 0-60 in about 5sec hit 155mph limiter

If it didn't have a grill, then youi should be ashamed. Get your ass back on that Piaggio

[mattgt]

ha ha, thanks kb-zxr, but we looked it up on the net and its a M5. I still am a little sad, but maybe need more practice with a pillion starting.
Siggi, let's not be sizeist. My 400 can beat a vast majority of 600 on twisties, what's wrong with that? I don't see the point in anything more in cities, just more reason to crash into the back of something
philcxiv, and what's saying my left hand can't perform a millisecond change? Or maybe not. Sounds scary. That someone would be willing to buy something like that, I think it's a bit overkill with F1 technology and all that.
Anyway, all I can say is "a pound=one pint" and not piss may I add. Goodnight!

[Mongrel]

You'd need to be real good to beat an M5, I've test driven one and they're fecking quick, even on a par with my 600 Thundercat, and zero wheelspin!

If I had 100 grand to spend, I'd have one

...and an Augusta F4 Tamburini with the other 50

[LUXY DJ]

anyone remember the M1? was pretty rare
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[McGee]

The M1 isnt that the one that looks like a Ferrari's bastardized love child


Would love a new M3
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[stevo as b4]

I think i disagree with this. I saw a BMW M3 newish version, today while at work. He had to give way to pass my parked van, and then i watched the driver boot it down a straight bit of lane, for about 250m. I think he started in 2nd or something, as i was not really that impressed with the initial acceleration, tho it made a surprising amount of noise from the 4 exhaust pipes. I have to say that i reckon it pulled away and increased speed no faster than an average 2litre turbocharged car like a Rover 220, Sierra Cosworth, or Astra turbo etc. I don't think that in a car of that weight that a tuned 3litre nasp engine even with 300+bhp has that much bottom end shove, and like alot of highly uned nasp cars it would only probably maintain a good pace on the track when you can use all the rev range and keep it in the power.

As for beating it on a 400, well really you should have only tried when riding solo, as subjecting a pillion to a full power start is a bit naughty, and it does ruin your ability to get a good start with the front wheel staying down. I almost raced a ferarri F355 spider from a set of lights once on my zx6, but i let him go first, and i was only revving to about 9k through 1st and 2nd gear to stay right behind his bumper. I didnt want to try a full on launch in case i got it wrong so i only pulled away at 3-4k as well.

[18_stuart_88]

As said before probly an M3 or M5.

But all the new beamers have a Traction Control button for better performance that adds on an extremly large amounts of BHP from standard

I ride a 125 and try and play games with fast cars! they all take the piss right out of me, but i just laugh it off as its all fun!

At least it wasnt a V12 Bentley is suppose! you would still be at the lights as hes stoped for the next set

Stu
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[stevo as b4]

Erm good point there, as no there were no black lines, and with the cost of those tyres i doubt he'd want to boot it too much anyway. I thought an M3 should be so much quicker than that, and i guess he either:
a) didnt really boot it, (though from the sound and noise it made i thought he was trying).
b) was in 2nd gear, and or had the TC system switched on.

Id be interested to see how fast an M3 can go though, as ive been in both a Sierra Cossie, and a Rover 220 turbo, and been fairly impressed with the acceleration. Id not call either of them shitters, when they would piss all over my car anyway!

As for the F355 being an MR2 kit car job, i don't think so mate. This guy was next to me at the lights and revving engine for long enough for me to know it was no MR2. I don't think anyone could mistake a Ferrari engine for an MR2 really? when he pulled away he slid sideways slightly and had a fair bit of wheelspin too. I was maybe 3car lengths behind by taking a slow start, but i had'nt got into 3rd before i had closed the gap to nothing. I backed off at 85mph as it was a 60mph road.

By the way ive been taken for a spin in an MR2 turbo that i was told had 265bhp, and though it was very quick, (brilliant for a 2litre car) it was nothing like bike performance.

[kawakid]

dont let it worry you.

I often get overtaken by cars.

Its normaly a case of who risks their license the most.

So when they're over taking you doing a tonne

And your thinking f*ck that, im not risking it.

They think their ace.

But you know the truth.

To be honest though, even on my ER5 i've never been beeten off the lights by owt.

I have slown down though, ie I wont go 40 in 30s to prove a point.

Rather let the cager think he's won, than risk my license/ injuring someone.
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[wristjob]

rover is all you need to say about the 220= fwd=poor off the line =poor cornering=rover shitter.astra turbo = more only worse.
2wd cos is a fine car(if a bit front end heavy)but side by side with a 340bhp e46 m3 the cos is going to need 400+ to stay in touch thanks to the whole turbo lag thing.
as an example i can mop the floor with a 400 bhp cos in a 125 bhp car on any of the technical tracks thanks to the fact that when i boot it i get power and when the cos boots it he gets lag.
i must point out that i have had a few cossies and more than 1 m car(some were better than others)

[tsmith]

Don't worry about it.

Think about how much that ugly nazi staffmobile tin can cost, how much the insurance is and how diabolical the fuel economy is.

Now think of your bike...fast, light, efficient, doesn't get stuck in traffic...etc

If you really want to humiliate them, wait till they get stuck in traffic and get your pillion to do a Hitler salute when you filter past. Drives them livid

[Claud 14.7 to 1]

It's because 400s are slow in the first place (a decent BMW should have a similar 0-60 time), and you were 2s up.

They never beat fast cars with ease like a 1000/750 (or even a 600cc) may do.

400s change a lot when you chuck another 70 or so KGs on the back - useless acceleration, brakes are a lot worse, not bad handling still though.

400s aren't as good as new 600s in any way I'd say. They are however very good for an old bike and very cheap, which makes them good in my books. Good fun value per pound.

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