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PostPosted: 10:10 - 24 Oct 2005    Post subject: Scariest moment yet :( Reply with quote

Combination of an HGV driver being a blind fool, and me not paying proper observation.

Coming onto the Liverpool Airport A road from Warrington today, on the roundabout just before the A Road, I was taking my exit when I saw a lorry driver on the exit after the one I was travelling from, he slowed down so I carried on to my exit.

Saw something out of the corner of my eye just before I finished leaving the roundabout and its THIS DAMN LORRY about a metre to the left of me travelling at top whack... Had to whack the throttle right open... Pretty sure that if I didn't I would of been hit and killed... Wouldn't of liked to be in a car in that situation either, he wouldn't of seen a giant neon pink schoolbus (Didn't see him look, just slow down, must of pulled out straight after that so he obviously didn't look)

Obviously not all his fault though, I shouldve noticed him not looking, or not completely stopping and aborted the turn Sad

Fucking shaking like a leaf right now Sad
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PostPosted: 10:17 - 24 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

He had priority over you and was driving a massive lorry, so you pulled out in front of him anyway?

I don't really see that being his fault. Confused
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PostPosted: 10:42 - 24 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ste wrote:
He had priority over you and was driving a massive lorry, so you pulled out in front of him anyway?

I don't really see that being his fault. Confused


Since when do people have priority over people already on the roundabout?

Like to see how long you'd live if you put that into practice! (No seriously, please do, I hate people who a) make judgments and b) can't read).

The BCF OMFGIDIDNTREADITBUTITSYUORFAULT!"!"!!112121~@@~!¬¬! curse strikes again.
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PostPosted: 10:45 - 24 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

good thing you did your lifesaver Thumbs Up

lorrys are always bastards on roundabouts, not all their fault like you say, but they do tend to realise how much road presence they have and expect others to get out of the way. Also, they're reluctant to stop or slow down because it takes them so long to get going again.
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PostPosted: 10:47 - 24 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gutted Confused Atleast you and your bikes alright. Just a good job that you were semi paying attention.
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PostPosted: 10:53 - 24 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keen wrote:
good thing you did your lifesaver Thumbs Up

lorrys are always bastards on roundabouts, not all their fault like you say, but they do tend to realise how much road presence they have and expect others to get out of the way. Also, they're reluctant to stop or slow down because it takes them so long to get going again.


Would of taken him a lot longer with mangled biker in his radiator Sad
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PostPosted: 11:02 - 24 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

sometimes on roundabouts its wise to abort mission and go round again, lucky you were safe
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PostPosted: 11:05 - 24 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

only if he decides to stop.

my brother had an accident just after he started driving, he was turning right at a smallish roundabout and there was a hgv in the left lane going straight on... the lorry cut straight across the roundabout and took his bonnet out. The driver just kept going.
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PostPosted: 11:12 - 24 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby R wrote:
Combination of an HGV driver being a blind fool, and me not paying proper observation.


Don't care who's "fault" it was, but there's only one part of that above statement that you are in control of. Other road users are all blind fools. Proper observation is the only tool you have for your own survival. No-one wants "It was his right of way" written on their headstone.

All in all, well survived mate. Thumbs Up Goes to show that even with a small mistake of your own (poor observation), you still managed to make the right decision at the necessary time. It's not easy to realise that an emergency throttle is sometimes more suited than an emergency brake.

Sometimes these near misses do a good thing and shake out a little bit of built-up complacency.

Lesson learned should be that all other road users are blind fools. Also, lorries often don't seem capable of staying within 1 lane while on a roundabout.

Stopped shaking yet?
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PostPosted: 11:27 - 24 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol, yeah I'm alright now... My girlfriend seems to think I would've been safer in a car though... Although I almost deffo would've been hit and killed if I didn't have a bit more acceleration.
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PostPosted: 11:58 - 24 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby R wrote:
Although I almost deffo would've been hit and killed if I didn't have a bit more acceleration.


Next bike's an RSV-Mille then?
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PostPosted: 12:38 - 24 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

RobB wrote:
Toby R wrote:
Although I almost deffo would've been hit and killed if I didn't have a bit more acceleration.


Next bike's an RSV-Mille then?


Next bike is called VOLVO i think :S
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PostPosted: 15:53 - 24 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmmm.. Seriously thinking of selling up :S
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 24 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

dont u dear think of commiting such a crime... thats treason against BCF Shocked tut tut tut lol Very Happy
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PostPosted: 16:27 - 24 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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dont u dear think of commiting such a crime... thats treason against BCF Shocked tut tut tut lol Very Happy


Lol Smile
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 24 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a similar incident where the car (Old man in Daewoo, I couldnt make it up if I tried) nerfed me just as I was about to go down the slip road. Should have seen it coming and gone round but inexperience meant I didnt. I tried wacking open the throttle and almost got away with it, if it wasnt for the pesky old man. A bigger bike WOULD (there is no doubt whatsoever) have covered me and got me out of the way.

So perhaps dont give up. Having near misses I'm afraid is going to be a common occurance. My dad is still adamant that someone try's to pull out on him at least once a week. Defensive/reserved riding means he can avoid it all the time. No crash in 25 years.
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 24 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reuben wrote:
I had a similar incident where the car (Old man in Daewoo, I couldnt make it up if I tried) nerfed me just as I was about to go down the slip road. Should have seen it coming and gone round but inexperience meant I didnt. I tried wacking open the throttle and almost got away with it, if it wasnt for the pesky old man. A bigger bike WOULD (there is no doubt whatsoever) have covered me and got me out of the way.

So perhaps dont give up. Having near misses I'm afraid is going to be a common occurance. My dad is still adamant that someone try's to pull out on him at least once a week. Defensive/reserved riding means he can avoid it all the time. No crash in 25 years.


This took the piss though, if I haven't of put the throttle on as hard as I could, or the bike bogged down when I did it, it would've hit me, no doubt about it...

It's really scared me to be honest... And got me thinking, is it worth it?
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PostPosted: 19:09 - 24 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm guessing from your sig you've been riding 3 months? to be honest, you're lucky to have gone so long without a near miss. I had a car do a u-turn in front of me on my 3/4 riding lesson...

but at the end of the day, you did see him and you did miss him... just keep doing that and you'll be fine Razz Wink

or be practical about it... get some lessons and your test done, maybe do some advanced training. It might make you feel safer Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 24 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Come on mate dont quit Thumbs Up Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 23:39 - 24 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby R wrote:

It's really scared me to be honest... And got me thinking, is it worth it?

Nothing wrong with being scared or thinking....I have been a complete scaredy cat since returning to biking but something about it makes it worth while Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 23:52 - 24 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I take it it happened something like shown in the attachment? It's probably something that happens to everyone at least once when they're learning. It does shit you up a bit, but that's good, because you're not going to forget the lesson in a hurry.

https://www.bikechatforums.com/files/roundabout_hgv_cg.gif
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PostPosted: 00:22 - 25 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

how many lanes approacing the roundabout? and how many leaving?
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PostPosted: 11:18 - 25 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a horrible roundabout, It's in Widnes - People might know it...

But you can see here the blue dots are him, basically pulled out of that exit to take the same exit as me, but the fact they are both so close meant I had little time to react.
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PostPosted: 11:31 - 25 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

your right it dose look like a nasty roundabout..... Confused
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 25 Oct 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

riichy wrote:
your right it dose look like a nasty roundabout..... Confused


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