RIP Unknown biker - A629, 01/11/05

[Bendy]

[Mr noOdles]

RIP young rider
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[Biker-Kev]

Okay, maybe the biker was going to fast towards an oncoming lorry, which he should not have done, but shourley you must still feel sorry for his family etc.

Some peolpe on here have forgotten about the effects this has had on the truck driver, which IMO must be quite horrific.

Just because this is a motorbike site, doesnt mean we dont need to respect other vehicle drivers

Kev
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[Bendy]

[White Noise]

i don't think for one second anyone thought, 'i bet the lorry driver was happy'. its a very sad situation which happens all the time, it just so happens it was witness by someone on the forum.
it doesn't matter whos fault it was, very very sad for all involved
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[riichy]

that road is a two lane road. which runs for about 2 miles, thing is it has 50mph speed camaras on it so .....do they save lives. well not today they didnt..
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[Andy C]

[Dom]

The biker's dead, so he's got nothing to worry about. His family, the driver of the truck and anyone who's witnessed it will have to deal with it for the rest of their lives.

I don't for a second believe the majority of people can shrug something off like that.
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[0ddball]

The problem with first aid courses is that because you rarely get to use it, within a month you've forgotten a lot of important information. I do a week long course every year (last one done in April this year) and although i probably still know enough to know what to do i wouldn't be 100% sure. And, as mentioned above, you can be sued for even trying to help so you've got to be damn sure you are doing the right thing before you do anything.
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[riichy]

[0ddball]

I wouldn't but you never know who you are dealing with. Aparantly it happens more than you'd think. In fact on the first aid course they tell you not to help unless it is absolutly neccesary or the person asks for help.

You can even be done for just giving them a couple of pain killers.
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[riichy]

[Dom]

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[phantomtek]

My view:

The biker could have been in the wrong, he might not have been. Either way a person has been killed and I fail to see how someone can ignore all feelings towards it. When I see threads and media articles about people getting killed or dying, it makes my heart sink to know another human has died. Maybe that's just me.

Condolences to the biker's family are in order, I think if I ever have a son and he is killed on the bike (touch wood), and a forum full of bikers offered condolences to me it would bring me some happiness. It's a simple gesture that can go a long long way.

Yes the truck driver's life will be changed, he will most probably have nightmares about the event and flashbacks etc. I know I would and you would be hard pushed to find anyone that wouldn't care if they just squashed and killed a another human. So my condolences to him and his family too, since they will have to live with it, it may mean job loss, we just don't know.

But in situations like this where we do not know the whole story I think it was pretty harsh what you said Bendy in the first comment, but the second made a good and valid point.

As for the people that sue after being brought back from the brink of the inevitable, it just shows the society we live in is pretty much based on greed, and that special human that saved another's life picked the wrong person to do it to. If someone saved my life but left me with a few (fixable) injuries, nay any injuries that leave me concious and able to continue in life normally, I personally would be forever in debt to that person. Fuck charging them thousands for the pleasure of doing so, and ruining their lives.

Death doesn't make life taste sweeter, infact the opposite could be said. And if it is your own death it makes life taste rather bland and earthy. Exceptions are probably for terrorists and evil people that deserve the punishment, and most of the time the natural karma system sorts those fuckers out.

The government is pissing all over life. But guess what? There's fuck all we can do about it, so we have to grin and bear it, get through life the best we can, and when the end inevitably comes, hope for it to be as quick, painless and unmessy as possible.

So condolences where applicable, take care riders of BCF, it can happen at anytime, just try to delay it by being as safe and sensible as possible.

Bit of a rant sorry. * Zips up flame proof suit *

Take care

[Dom]

[Rookie]

Emergency trachs are a very dodgy procedure, I would never feel comfortable doing one unless I was fully trained, you're effectively slitting someone's throat. Want to get sued? That would be the best way to do it.

In a nutshell it's bad all round, isn't it? The truck driver will have flashbacks and nightmares about it for years, for something that probably wasn't his fault, a rider lost his life becausehe made a mistake, and he's left a devastated family in his wake. Nothing good ever omes out of these things, except that they can teach us what happens when things go wrong, and how to avoid them.

[lurker]

i would consider this to be an RIP thread and if bendy and the likes want to argue about the other aspects of this tragedy they should take it to another post.
maybe for a second you ought to put yourselves in the position of one of the deceaseds family or friends who for all you know could be members of this forum and reread what you wrote.
i don't think the replys to the post would be what they'd be expecting.
a bit of common courtesy is all thats expected.

rip biker

[LUXY DJ]

yeah i see bendys point but his 26 & now dead so give him some feeling 1st but yeah the truck driver(assuming his human) will be shook up but he might of come RIGHT over 2 the side so he couldnt filter


RIP 26 yr old
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[Shaun]

Yet another random person is dead.

I agree with Bendy, I feel for the truck driver, it doesn't matter where he was in his lane he was driving legally and some guy going too fast decides to ride into him. How would you feel if you were minding your own business and someone went into you and died, I know for a fact even though it wasn't my fault I wouldn't feel right for quite a while.

Keep on trucking dude!

[Rookie]

10-4, Shaun.

[LUXY DJ]

I KNOW

i said that BUT i also think that say your coming down the side filtering ok then the truck moves RIGHT over while your beside a car(so you cant pull in) & thought fuck it iv got the bigger vechile here & his on MY lane (just being arsey,etc)
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