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 Kickstart The Oracle

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 Posted: 18:07 - 01 Nov 2005 Post subject: Safe Speed press release. |
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Hi
SafeSpeed press release, about bikes and speeding.
| SafeSpeed wrote: | PR250: Government report shows that speeding is a very minor crash cause
news: for immediate release
The recently released official report: "In depth study of Motorcycle Accidents" states clearly that only 3.5% of crashes involved 'speeding' (exceeding the speed limit). Of those only 62% involved the motorcyclist speeding, so only 2.2% of motorcyclists were speeding when they crashed. This contrasts with literally 100% of respondents who admitted speeding, with 58% admitting speeding 'always' or 'frequently'.
Paul Smith, founder of the Safe Speed road safety campaign (https://www.safespeed.org.uk) said: "Every single time we obtain or derive information about the involvement of 'speeding' in crash contribution the figures are absolutely tiny. While speeding is extremely commonplace, with 60% of vehicles speeding at sample sites on most road types, we always find that well over 95% of crashes do not involve speeding."
"One might conclude that 'speeding' is at least 10 times safer than 'not speeding' based on these figures, but the truth is that speeding and crashes take place largely at different places and different times. The reason is simple. Drivers and riders tend to speed where the road is clear and tend to slow down where there are hazards that may cause a crash. This behaviour is vital to road safety."
"Once again these figures show how misguided government road safety policy is. 90% of the effort is directed towards 3% of the problem. Unfortunately this means that 98% of crash causes are inadequately addressed - a sin of omission that makes the roads far more dangerous than they should be."
"While motorcyclists take a great deal of criticism for being reckless speeders, this report reveals the vital truth that almost all of them use speed safely and responsibly almost all of the time."
It is extremely misleading when the DfT claim - as they have recently - that about 30% of fatalities involve 'excessive speed' because:
* Most of the 30% DOES NOT involve exceeding a speed limit. 'Excessive speed' in these terms includes both exceeding a speed limit AND travelling at an inappropriate speed for the conditions. We know from sample data that 70% of excessive speed crashes do not involve 'speeding'.
* A significant proportion of the remainder involves extremely reckless behaviours that are alien to most of the people affected by speed enforcement. Such behaviours include speeding drunks, speeding stolen vehicles, reckless types racing on the highway and so on.
* Safe Speed estimates that less than 5% of all roads fatalities involve otherwise responsible motorists travelling in excess of a speed limit. |
New DfT report:
https://www.dft.gov.uk/stellent/groups/dft_rdsafety/documents/page/dft_rdsafety_035422.pdf
See report page 35, PDF page 36.
All the best
Keith ____________________ Traxpics, track day and racing photographs - Bimota Forum - Bike performance / thrust graphs for choosing gearing |
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I think they should spend more money in sorting out the roads.
Some of the roads I've seen are terrible. One of the roads I used to go on has recently been covered entirely in gravel and loose chipping signs put up.
It was perfectly surfaced and full of great corners. I can't understand why anyone did that. ____________________ Go back to bed - You have no rights - "Streetfighters ~ Mainstream motorcycling's crackwhore sister." |
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I think those results will be finding their way to the bin very shortly. ____________________ Space Monkey #7
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Well I read reports similar by non government groups, obviously nothing is done about it.
So now this has come out, what happens next, or is it going to go the same way? ____________________ Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.
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Interesting read Keith. Funny this should come out now though. Heard on the radio this morning that in the past however many months since their installation, the new SPECS cameras on the A77 in Ayrshire have caught a paltry 21 people speeding. The Council is taking them down.  ____________________ If at first you don't succeed, move the damn goalposts! |
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Good read , Cheers Keith
Gotta say though, as revealing as this report is... the old guys with those blue hats aint going to do a lot about it IMO. ____________________ CBT Aug '03 ... Gilera GSM 50 ... Honda NSR 125 Aug '04 ...
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 20 years, 332 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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