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froggy128
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 07 Nov 2005    Post subject: Keeping the cold out Reply with quote

What would you recomend to help keep the cold out on winter runs?
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 07 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

a heated vest is good for about £100, or on a budget, thin layers. Don't worry so much about your hands and feet, you want to keep your centre warm and your hands etc will get warm in turn.
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PostPosted: 14:42 - 07 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of these, is a must!

No more cold patches on ur head or neck!

https://www.bifax.co.uk/thermal_balaclava.html

Approx £9
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PostPosted: 14:45 - 07 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wearing jeans with leather trousers or some good textile ones is good enough for me any weather.
I usually wear t-shirt, jumper and possibly light jacket under a bike jacket.
Gloves should be good enough for all year use.
Boots are a must.
A scarf is all I need around that area.
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PostPosted: 14:46 - 07 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

a pair of tights under your leathers (trousers) and a couple of sheets of news paper under your jacket, should keep most of chills away and get a neck warm

and no i'm not a transvestite lol,used to work in a cold store and just about everyone wore tights under there trousers. Laughing
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 07 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have always used fleece long johns and a thin zip neck fleece top under my leathers. Bought them both years ago when I was climbing and they are still going strong.

I've also got an Oxford Chillout neck tube that's windproof, Gortex Daytona Roadstar boots, RST Carbopaw 3 finger gloves and some Klan heated inner gloves that I'll use when winter starts proper.
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PostPosted: 14:51 - 07 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rookie_biker wrote:
Don't worry so much about your hands and feet, you want to keep your centre warm and your hands etc will get warm in turn.


I don't agree with that m8. I've been out in really cold weather and its always my toes and hands that get cold when I'm warm everywhere else.
When I bought my bike this time last year I actually had to get my mate in the car behind me to take my gloves off for me. My hands were so cold I couldn't grip anymore Razz
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PostPosted: 14:55 - 07 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deffinately, your hands and feet are your controls. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 14:59 - 07 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr.Everready wrote:
I don't agree with that m8. I've been out in really cold weather and its always my toes and hands that get cold when I'm warm everywhere else.


Can happen, but the body tries to keep the core temperature up, and restricts the blood supply to your extremities (ie, hands and feet first) to do this. Hence if you body is cold you are wasting your time trying to keep your hands and feet cold.

I tend to just use more layers in winter. Add a T shirt, then a jumper, and occasionally a fleece over the top of my bike jacket.

Getting seriously tempted to add a set of heated grips to the FZR (getting quite used to them using Charlottes old GPZ at the moment).

All the best

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PostPosted: 15:14 - 07 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

it really is that quick wrote:
a pair of tights under your leathers (trousers)...

Or you could find stockings and suspenders are less restricting for that toilet stop Very Happy

As said use layers for the main body and make sure use tights/stockings/thermals for the legs. Cut out draughts by using good neck wear. I use one of the 'cold killer' ones that covers the chest as well. Good bit of kit.

Despite what's said above do make sure you have a good set of gloves. If I choose the wrong ones to start the journey I'm thinking more about my fingers and that can't be good for riding. Now I use the Hein Gericke Pathan 2 finger gloves and also pack a spare pair of winter gloves as well in case I need to change.

One of the best buys I've made for my feet was a pair of the waterproof but breathable socks (like gortex but I know mine aren't). Walking/camping shops should have them (I think if stocked by bike shops they'll be over priced). These seem to keep out the chill when the boots get cold and my feet keep warm.

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PostPosted: 16:04 - 07 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr.Everready wrote:
Rookie_biker wrote:
Don't worry so much about your hands and feet, you want to keep your centre warm and your hands etc will get warm in turn.


I don't agree with that m8. I've been out in really cold weather and its always my toes and hands that get cold when I'm warm everywhere else.


I don't agree either... when I went down to the NEC I wore doc marten boots, jeans, t-shirt, hoodie, leather jacket. It was only my hands that got cold... always is. I ended up buying new gloves at the show Smile

One tip is to leave your gloves on the radiator. Doesn't stop your hands from getting cold completely, just keeps them warmer for a little longer Smile I also warm my hands on the engine at traffic lights, good reason to buy a naked bike Smile
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PostPosted: 16:18 - 07 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

muffs are big gloves that stay on the bike and covwer controls and you wear your normal gloves underneat

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/deluxe-oxford-muffs-500-00-IF-ONLY-postage-3-99_W0QQitemZ8012153668QQcategoryZ30240QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I used to just wear several pairs of glvoes but this hampers operating controls, but muffs dont.

I love mine. I reckon they may be better than heated grips cos heated grips heat your palms but not your knuckles.

I wear two coats sometimes (leather biker jacket+ hi vis padded road worker jacket) and when its really cold I wear two pairs of trousers

buy a bike that spews out hot air by your legs. I know the tt600 does this but dunno if this is common with other bikes or not.
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PostPosted: 16:24 - 07 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keen wrote:
Mr.Everready wrote:


I don't agree with that m8. I've been out in really cold weather and its always my toes and hands that get cold when I'm warm everywhere else.


I don't agree either... when I went down to the NEC I wore doc marten boots, jeans, t-shirt, hoodie, leather jacket. It was only my hands that got cold... always is. I ended up buying new gloves at the show Smile

One tip is to leave your gloves on the radiator. Doesn't stop your hands from getting cold completely, just keeps them warmer for a little longer Smile I also warm my hands on the engine at traffic lights, good reason to buy a naked bike Smile


I wouldn't havee believed it either, but scientifically it's the right way to go about it. If you've got warm blood flushing through from your heart to your hands, they won't get as cold. Kapeesh? Razz Of course, it helps to have good gloves etc on your hands. But investing in a vest might work better than investing in heated grips or something, that's all.
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PostPosted: 16:30 - 07 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not disagreeing that scientifically if your body core is warm then it helps keep the rest of you warm aswell. But if you do get cold it is the extremities that will suffer first and on a bike that is not good.
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PostPosted: 16:32 - 07 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thermal underwear, Kappa does some really good stuff (and if it's good enough for us Finns, it should be good enough for you Brits), albeit a bit pricey. Camping shops do that as well, as does M&S! The idea is to have them as thin as possible, so you can have two of them on if necessary.

Thermal socks, again camping shops should do the really thin ones, failing that, cashmere socks.

Silk undergloves under proper gloves should do the trick.

Balaclava under the helmet.

Knee warmers, which you can get from any dance shop!
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PostPosted: 16:38 - 07 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

Heated grips really help I have Oxford ones (39.99) not the cheapest but the cheap ones we had were pants.

Good winter gloves - I like the cloven hooves

Linned textile trousers and jacket with jumper when its really cold.

Regards
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 07 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I wouldn't havee believed it either, but scientifically it's the right way to go about it. If you've got warm blood flushing through from your heart to your hands, they won't get as cold. Kapeesh?


yeah, kapeesh Razz I'm not doubting the science, but theres theory and then theres paractise, and I think that on a bike the fact that your hands are stuck out front in the wind is the crucial thing Smile

Even if you do keep your chest nice and warm, the improved blood flow isnt going to be enough to counteract the windchill. Warm gloves and a two handed grip on a hot cup of tea half way there is the best solution Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 16:44 - 07 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi,

I have not tried a heated vest but what puts me off is the fafaing about etc plugging it etc something else to put on and so on.

With heated grisp they are always there to use

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PostPosted: 16:53 - 07 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keen wrote:
Even if you do keep your chest nice and warm, the improved blood flow isnt going to be enough to counteract the windchill.


Very true, but if you chest is not kept warm then it doesn't matter what you do with your hands as they are still going to be cold.

All the best

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PostPosted: 17:07 - 07 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Keen wrote:
Even if you do keep your chest nice and warm, the improved blood flow isnt going to be enough to counteract the windchill.


Very true, but if you chest is not kept warm then it doesn't matter what you do with your hands as they are still going to be cold.

All the best

Keith


Nail on head. Thumbs Up Whilst the measures you take to keep your hands warm are effective in the short term and do have an effect, if your core isn't warm they are going to have significantly less of an effect.
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 07 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

We're not disagreeing with that fact.
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 07 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

so basically we've arrived at the conclusion that its best to try and keep everything as warm as possible Razz good work team Razz Thumbs Up Very Happy
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PostPosted: 17:24 - 07 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mr.Everready wrote:
We're not disagreeing with that fact.


I'm not trying to argue! Rolling Eyes

Me and Keith at least, arrived at the conclusion that a high core temperature makes more sense than a high extremity temperature.
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PostPosted: 17:28 - 07 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who's arguing ? Confused

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I'm not disagreeing that scientifically if your body core is warm then it helps keep the rest of you warm aswell. But if you do get cold it is the extremities that will suffer first and on a bike that is not good.

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PostPosted: 17:30 - 07 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shhh! Silence I concede. Wink
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