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chris-red
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PostPosted: 23:56 - 25 Nov 2005    Post subject: Snow Riding Reply with quote

I've been riding about 3 months and need to ride to get to uni courses and work. I'm not liking the cold much but riding is required. I was wondering what winter tips are there for riding in snow and shitey conditions.
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PostPosted: 00:08 - 26 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless it's absoloutely necessary, or your an idiot like myself, then dont.
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PostPosted: 00:40 - 26 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reuben wrote:
Unless it's absoloutely necessary, or your an idiot like myself, then dont.


it's both i'm afraid
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PostPosted: 10:15 - 26 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

just take it easy! don't let anyone rush you, go at what speed you feel comfortable
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PostPosted: 12:19 - 26 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go very slow and try not to use your front brake, at all! black ice will have you off your bike quicker than anything and its a lot better your back wheel skidding than your front Thumbs Up, Dan
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 26 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

good clutch control in the snow is a must...dont do anything that is likely to spin up the rear wheel and do your best to look out for snow-covered manhole covers/drains etc.
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PostPosted: 18:17 - 26 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where are you based? It's anywhere in England, bar freak occurences (plus the Lake and Peak Districts) you'd be unlucky to see any snow at all. I imagine you'll get plenty of ice though. The main thing is to just slow down, watch the road and be careful to avoid any obvious patches. If anything looks shiney, avoid it, especially manhole covers and road paint. Also bear in mind which farming season you're in. Ploughing, tilling and general stuff at this time of year will drag mud onto the roads.

Use engine braking and the rear brake much more with slippery surfaces. Neither tyre will have the grip to brake really hard, but locking the front wheel is often catastrophic. Locking the rear will just make you fishtail around. Try to have more than one way of getting to uni. If it is only a short distance (a mile or two), walking or cycling is often a better approach.
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PostPosted: 18:26 - 26 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had to ride back in thick snow from college the other day, I can give you a couple of tips -

Arrow When approaching the bottom of a hill and you're behind a car, back off, because the car will probably slow down so much they will not be able to get up. You need to keep your speed up a little, and keep it in a gear which isn't too twitchy but has enough power to get you up

Arrow Be careful changing down gear, the back will slip about if you do it too early

Arrow Obviously be very careful pulling away, or you'll wheelspin

Arrow On a hill, drive just outside the tyre marks, but not in the deep snow. Cars were wheelspinning, exposing the tarmac, which caused ice to form

Arrow Avoid using the front brake at all costs!

Arrow Don't worry if smoke comes from your engine under the tank - it's most likely steam

Arrow Try to keep with a few cars, but extend your braking distance to avoid rear ending the car infront of you. By sticking with a few cars, if you do come off there will (maybe) be someone to help, and if theres a car behind you going slow there's less likely to be someone come tearing up behind you and hit you.

Arrow Despite the above, if the traffic is moving too quickly for your liking, take it at your own speed. You pay road tax, you OWN the bit of road you're on - don't let cagers force you into speeding up

Arrow Keep lights on full beam, visibility is crap in the snow.

Arrow Wear a high vis if you've got one

Arrow Be careful if you pull into laybys, as these have most likely not been gritted

Arrow Keep your visor down when passing grit trucks, because they will spit stones up all over the side of you as they pass. I kept mine down all the time because crap was being thrown up off the road.

Thats just what I learnt, so can't guarantee it's 100% right, but I got home in 1 piece, so something must have worked!
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PostPosted: 12:41 - 27 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

STAY SMOOTH AS POSS.

as many others have said........

stay off the brakes as much as you can

keep gear changes smooth and slow

stay much further back from other traffic than you would normally

do not accerlate quickly

it doesn't matter if you crawl along on first gear if it ensures you stay upright Thumbs Up

once you hit black ice though on two wheels not an awful lot you can do except land well Wink
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PostPosted: 16:15 - 28 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

just dont do it.....your bike is not made for snow, its rubber is no use on snow your brakes are no use and the high revs are no use on snow......

if i see snow i walk no matter how bad i need to get to work or college......


better i be late than on the flor with my pride and joy on top of me Neutral


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PostPosted: 18:07 - 29 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ride a bike that you dont care if it gets damaged Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:57 - 29 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Set the bike about 45 degrees on one side, left or right with full lock applied. Apply quite a lot of revs in first gear. Drop the clutch.


All you need to know for snow riding. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 23:54 - 29 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haha Ferg, i guess you're wrong on that! Loughborough snowed lightly 2 days ago and i got caught out whilst i came out of engineering.

I needed to go to town (1 mile away) to do shopping but still decided on taking my bike rather than leaving it at the campus,so here's a run down on what to do:

Arrow Don't use maximum revs, try only using the bottom half of the rev range
Arrow Don't twist the throttle while banked over
Arrow Don't bash down the gears too quickly, if not, now's a good time to learn to blip the throttle on the downchanges as it makes it a helluva lot smoother
Arrow Avoid drains
Arrow Do stop frequently for a warm drink
Arrow Do take it slowly
Arrow Do Use your HORN!
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PostPosted: 22:07 - 30 Nov 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

snows a good time to learn how to back it in with engine braking.
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PostPosted: 01:52 - 01 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you see snow on the morning of your lecture at uni stay at home!!

Id rid in the snow once to meet some friends at work it started to snow, i underestimated it and 1hr later the place was covered in snow.
Then went off a main road onto a quiet road with a gradient of around 35 degrees and couldnt get up it, it took three people to help me push the bike up the slight hill.

My advice, if it snows stay home or use public transport!

Its bad enough when cagers hit you because they didnt see you but to be hit because they did see you but couldnt stop the car is even worse! Shocked
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 01 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I or Should I be making any adjustments to the suspension settings or tyre pressures etc. when riding in slippery conditions?

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