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spitfire
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PostPosted: 09:47 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Triumph's secret bikes revealed Reply with quote

From the MCN email flyer:

THE Triumph 680 may have only just been shown for the first time, but Triumph is already working on a new naked version based around the same frame and engine. Thanks to our factory insiders we’ve got exclusive first details of the new 675 Speed Triple in this week’s MCN . Plus, Triumph’s test riders are already developing a new, sportier Tiger with 17 inch wheels front and rear, and we’ve got the spy shots to prove it. For the latest Triumph news make sure you but this week’s MCN , on sale Wednesday.
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PostPosted: 10:26 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Humm, i hope they don't make the speed triple more like the old one, the current model is by far the best looking, and thanks to that short tail, i've seen people wheelie past 12, and land it rubber side down.

I've never seen why the speed triple never sold more, its more than a match for the middleweight japanese nakeds, but never sells to the 'just passed' restricted market. Maybe there just aren't enough triumph dealers out there, or there's no restrictor kits.

EDIT: Just realised the triple is a litre.... Embarassed Always thought it used the smaller daytona's engine...

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PostPosted: 11:41 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

A speed triple style 675 would be awesome. Drooling
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PostPosted: 13:23 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't quote me on this but Im sure I read somewhere a new project Triumph are working on is a 6 cylinder!
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PostPosted: 13:34 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dom wrote:
A speed triple style 675 would be awesome. Drooling


I'll second that Drooling Drooling
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like something made by Triumph that is along the lines of the Fazer 1000 (the old one) but with a triple pot, I guess the nearest they have is the Sprint ST but I would like a bit less fairing but not cut to the extent of the speed triple! Think that would be a good all round, do anything bike!

Are you listening Triumph? (like they care what I think) Wink
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PostPosted: 17:23 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

spitfire wrote:
I would like something made by Triumph that is along the lines of the Fazer 1000 (the old one) but with a triple pot, I guess the nearest they have is the Sprint ST but I would like a bit less fairing but not cut to the extent of the speed triple! Think that would be a good all round, do anything bike!

Are you listening Triumph? (like they care what I think) Wink


Err, why?

The New Speed Triple is everything a Fazer 1000 is and MUCH more. That little tiny extra bit of plastic on the Fazer makes absolutely no difference at all.

The reason the Speed Triple doesn't sell to people that have just passed is that it is more expensive to buy, run and insure than the Jap bikes. Also it has quite a lot of torque for someone who is just new into biking.

The low end (up to 65/70) thrashes almost any other bike on the road.

No Triumph, DON'T ruin the name of a fantastic bike by sticking a 675 engine in a version of it. The Triple is meant to be brutal and fun, let's keep it that way! 1050 is the only way to go. Any smaller and you wont have enough grunt and any larger and it won't be fun to throw around! That's what makes it such a great bike (but I'm biased!) I defy anyone to ride one and not enjoy it!

Just my 2p worth.

I know, I've got one!! Laughing
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Err, why?

The New Speed Triple is everything a Fazer 1000 is and MUCH more. That little tiny extra bit of plastic on the Fazer makes absolutely no difference at all.

The reason the Speed Triple doesn't sell to people that have just passed is that it is more expensive to buy, run and insure than the Jap bikes. Also it has quite a lot of torque for someone who is just new into biking.

The low end (up to 65/70) thrashes almost any other bike on the road.


Sorry I dont agree, the speed triple is an excellent bike that is true, but it's nothing like the fazer. The fazer is a big bike with a simple chassis, detuned engine, it can be used as a scratch bike, touring bike, commuter and general all rounder, where you can throw on a pillion or luggage and off you go . As far as I can tell the speed triple is very aggressive and focused and would knacker you out after 100 miles. The speed triple is a street bike where as the Fazer is more of a sports bike with comfy bars.

Note: I do have to be honest and say I have not ridden either bikes but I have sat on them and read many reviews, whether that qualifies me to have an opinion...well who knows, but I have said my bit anyway Wink
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PostPosted: 19:24 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see what you are saying, but all I was commenting on is that you wished that Triumph would make a bike similar to a Fazer, well in many respects the Speed Triple is a 'similar' bike but, as we both agree on, a better bike.

If you fancy something made by Triumph that is similar to a Fazer then the Speed Triple is the bike to go for. It would be no different over a long distance than the Fazer would. They are both based on sportsbikes essentially so the riding position is fairly similar. The Triple is a better handling bike but that doesn't make it more uncomfortable to ride and your feet are 'slightly' further back on the Triple than the Fazer but not enough to make it any less comfortable!

If you want something comfy for long distance then you really need to look for a different style of bike altogether... perhaps a (ugh) BMW or something! Laughing

Anyway, I take your point of what you are saying, but IMHO if anyone is comparing a Fazer to a Triple they would be mad to go for the Fazer unless cost is the most important factor, even then the difference is fairly minor!

I have to admit though.. if you want to take a pillion, the Fazer is the one to go for!! Wink Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

spitfire wrote:
The fazer is a big bike with a simple chassis, detuned engine, it can be used as a scratch bike, touring bike, commuter and general all rounder, where you can throw on a pillion or luggage and off you go.


You just described the ST pretty well.

What Triumph's range does need is a mid sized cruiser - 1500 or so. That should be around next year. A full dress tourer (cross a Sprint with the Rocket) would also do well, as they don't have one since dropping the Trophy.

What they don't need is a supermoto. I really hope that MCN are wrong with this new Tiger and that they actually develop the bike more along the lines that its on now - i.e. more on the tourer side than sports.
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