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pj25
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PostPosted: 12:06 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: NSR 250! Reply with quote

Hello people, i'm going to look at a nsr 250 tonite with a friend. Friend is potential buyer.

Apart from the usual stuff what else do we need to look out for on these bike's??

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PostPosted: 12:08 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just the usual stuff usually mate. Wink

Brakes, chain, forks, have a ride on it, listen to the engine, check all the gaskets, check for signs of crash damage, are the fairings original, original paint job, etc etc. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 12:15 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

depending on the mileage, how many engine rebuilds has it had?


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PostPosted: 12:20 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

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depending on the mileage, how many engine rebuilds has it had?


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PostPosted: 13:36 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unless he has a receipt for a rebuild withint he past 5000 miles, assume the engine has been ragged and needs a top end rebuild and budget for one accordingly (£200).

When dealing with a race replica 2 stroke it really is a case of better safe and £200 poorer than lying by the side of a ceased bike thats now bent to fuck and extremely sorry!
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

A keen owner would keep the 2-stroke oil level nice and high. Listen out for piston slap, it's a sure sign it needs an immediate rebuild or is soon to blow.
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not really much you need to look for. Make sure the powervalves are turning, PGM's are expensive to replace.

What model is it (16, 18, 21 or 28?).

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PostPosted: 20:28 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

maurice wrote:
A keen owner would keep the 2-stroke oil level nice and high. Listen out for piston slap, it's a sure sign it needs an immediate rebuild or is soon to blow.


I've never heard that term, what is it and what does it sound like? Shocked

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PostPosted: 21:01 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

simple thing to look out for is dont buy one, get a gsxr600k seris instead!, all the best! Razz
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rookie_biker wrote:
I've never heard that term, what is it and what does it sound like? Shocked


It's basically when the piston and/or barrel is worn so the piston can have a little sideways movement.

See https://www.pistonslap.com/whatisit.htm

It's hard to describe the sound, been a few years since I owned the rgv, it's like a deep rattle.
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

woo wrote:
simple thing to look out for is dont buy one, get a gsxr600k seris instead!, all the best! Razz


i dont think thats the point

a well ridden 250 will be just as fast as 600

a tuned 250 will destroy a 600

donnington park, 600 supersport grid pole position pere riba 1:34.644

that would put him 20th on the 250 GP grid

250 pole time was 1:31.8, i make that nearly 3 seconds a lap faster


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PostPosted: 22:56 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

maurice wrote:
Rookie_biker wrote:
I've never heard that term, what is it and what does it sound like? Shocked


It's basically when the piston and/or barrel is worn so the piston can have a little sideways movement.

See https://www.pistonslap.com/whatisit.htm

It's hard to describe the sound, been a few years since I owned the rgv, it's like a deep rattle.


I heard of piston slap but never knew what it meant until that explanation. if thats the case however, there should be sign of engine oil in the exhausts, loss of power and compression.
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johnsilva
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PostPosted: 22:59 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Deano wrote:

there should be sign of engine oil in the exhausts



hmm, being a 2T, i would hope there is something like oil in the exhausts!

D'oh!

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PostPosted: 23:04 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

johnsilva wrote:
hmm, being a 2T, i would hope there is something like oil in the exhausts!


Yeah, and theres a good chance you might not realise theres a few bhp missing, especially in winter...
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pj25
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PostPosted: 23:24 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barry_MC21 wrote:


What model is it (16, 18, 21 or 28?).

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It's a mc18 on a 88 Eplate.
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PostPosted: 23:25 - 08 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

a tuned nsr 250 will not get near a 600 with equal skilled riders
a standard one would be destroyed by a 600 on everythin but the smallest twistiest road
i own an aprilia rs250 and a gsxr600k5 so i can tell the difference between bullshit and fact
moto gp 250s are not tuned 250's, the aprilia rsv250 costs 120,000 dollars, the honda rsw and aprilia rsw are not even for sale
the lesser honda rsv's are in the region of 50,000 dollars
a honda rs250 wud give a 600 a run for its money sure, still wud be slower, but it cant be used on the road, so there goes that idea
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PostPosted: 11:40 - 09 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

MC18 is a good NSR, its the closest you can get to the GP bike of the year (88). They are also the least restricted of all the models.

The NSR's are great little bikes, I'd have no problems with getting another one, quick, light, and will happily hold its own against bigger machinery on a track. Wink

NSR's when running full power usually show just over 60bhp on the dyno, and lays that power down very well on the road, you can throw them about with ease. Find a decent one (there are quite rare now) and you'll have alot of fun, I certainly did on mine, and it turned alot of heads too! Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 09 Dec 2005    Post subject: Reply with quote

i will add
buy the nsr if its nice, i have had the rs for 4 years, the gsxr will be sold on soon for a newer or bigger bike
drivin a proper 2 stroke 250 is different to anythin else, they are great fun
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