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PostPosted: 23:23 - 10 Jan 2006    Post subject: Derestricting 50cc!!!! Reply with quote

Any stuff you want to say about derestricting 50cc...just write about it here and put some links of products !!! especially Yam tzr 2004!! Wink
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PostPosted: 23:35 - 10 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you got msn add me [email protected] ive got an ebook on how to do it Smile
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PostPosted: 02:19 - 12 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Confused How is derestricting an RS any different to any other restricted moped? Especially a TZR, since they're effectively the same.
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PostPosted: 02:44 - 12 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Because BM has a RS from the sounds of it Laughing Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 02:46 - 12 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

BM_troubleYou? wrote:
3 words, Dont Do It.

Eventually it will do more harm then good. Unless you have something like an RS, which was intended to have the increased power.


In some countries the mopeds are sold unrestricted, they are exactly the same as the UK peds.

No damage will be done to the moped unless the derestriction is done wrong or it is held at full revs/speed for very long periods of time. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:36 - 12 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In some countries the mopeds are sold unrestricted, they are exactly the same as the UK peds.

No damage will be done to the moped unless the derestriction is done wrong or it is held at full revs/speed for very long periods of time.


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How is derestricting an RS any different to any other restricted moped? Especially a TZR, since they're effectively the same.


I agree that SOME peds we find in the UK are ok to be derestirced, in theory.( I say in theory because they last much longer with one in!) But... as im sure you have noticed, the number of peds on the road has increased dramatically in the past few years, and presented an opportunity to the manufacturers to reduce the production costs of the peds. Knowing that most peds being sent to the UK would by law need to be restricted for use by the younger generation, and therefore would not have as much power and wear as their earlier models, they reduced the quality of the engine materials used to build the UK models.

As for why an RS, TZR and things like the derbi GRP are different, the restrictions are put in place after they reach the UK, and still have the higher build quality in the engine. I know from PAST experience that the RS is too heavy to not have the extra power, and is infact safer when derestricted. Pulling out on to a roundabout with a bus coming the other way is not fun when the revs die.... you might as well be on a hoover.[/quote]
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PostPosted: 14:46 - 12 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

BM_troubleYou? wrote:
Knowing that most peds being sent to the UK would by law need to be restricted for use by the younger generation, and therefore would not have as much power and wear as their earlier models, they reduced the quality of the engine materials used to build the UK models.


I doubt this would be the case.. relative to the worldwide market, the UK market is small fry, and it's probably not worth the manufacturer shutting down a productionline, retooling for different materials, dealing with a different supply of materials, and also holding a different stock, and ensuring there is no cross contamination. They would also have to pay the r&d dept to work out the specs of the new materials, and do extensive testing on the new engines and components. It would cost more to do all that, than it would to just send the same ones here.

While I can see your logic, in business terms it just doesn't cost out.

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PostPosted: 17:33 - 12 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry BM. I totally dont agree with you there. Mopeds arent JUST made for 16 year olds, alot of older people have been known to buy 50cc scooters or bikes and derestrict them, for a range or reasons from milage to cheap insurance. Also if companies were looking to skimp on money, it wouldent be to change the composition of the engines sent to the UK. As this would cost more money for them to run a completely different line to manufacture these engines.
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PostPosted: 17:34 - 12 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="firefox"]if you got msn add me [email protected] ive got an ebook on how to do it Smile[/quote]

ohhh awesome!! i really hope you can help me!!! ive just added you!! cheers dan
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PostPosted: 17:38 - 12 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i reckon a tweekd tzr will beat a tweekd rs!! any day, on looks and power, handling, anytime any day!! Very HappyVery HappyVery HappyVery Happy if i knew how to tweek the tzr Very HappyVery Happy lol!
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PostPosted: 17:51 - 12 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive told ya what things to get in the other guys thread.

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PostPosted: 18:28 - 12 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i see an animated avatar... shoot that man.
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PostPosted: 23:14 - 12 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

doesnt matter!! not hurten any one!!
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PostPosted: 00:33 - 13 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

in actual fact the TZR 50 is hevier than the RS 50,

scooters and peds should be de-restricted as it is much safer on the roads eg 40 limit scooter going 30 will slow trafic flow down and forse overtaking therefore, pushing the scoot into the gutter and an unsafe position,

as for pulling out onto roundabouts with busses in the equation thats a stupid idea, maybe wait till the bus has gone past??? Rolling Eyes
also give the bike more revs and feed the cluch in 2t's need quite high revvs to get away

from my experience on a ped this is the best option living in an area with allot of 40, 50 and national speed limits this is what i did

companies dont doungrade parts for the uk this is stupid and would cost £££££'s

infact the small 2t's tend to run better de-ristricted as the bike is not being slowed down by a washer on the drum/cone in the zorst

hope this helps dont listen to BM and just dont keep ur throttle pinned all the time

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PostPosted: 18:36 - 13 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

wel said jon!! i agreee with everything you sed!!

i ride my bike to trainen and its a 40 limit all the way and its on a slight hill im strugling to get 25-27 out of the TZR,

i keep pulling over leaving cars past, it gets that bad, if you know wat i mean!!

its really embaresing and dangerous!!

im not goin on it now until ive have the new jets and exhaust shwd be a little nippier then!! lol!!
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PostPosted: 18:43 - 13 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you were embarsed about the speed, why did you get a 50? Razz

"cos i need transport and ill learn alot from a 50 blah blah blah
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PostPosted: 18:48 - 13 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aikman666 wrote:
Sorry BM. I totally dont agree with you there. Mopeds arent JUST made for 16 year olds, alot of older people have been known to buy 50cc scooters or bikes and derestrict them, for a range or reasons from milage to cheap insurance.


Tis true! my father bought an aprilia RX50 which has almost the same engine as the RS(bar kick start) and lots of other bikes such as motorhispania RX and Rieju...you can also add the Gileras to that list.

We had it derestricted from new. It did 7000miles..and was still sweet.
Dad used to steal the RX50 out of the shed, preference over the varadero125 or the NSR125.

now we have the RS that gets pinched, NSR just sits abandoned unless my brother is out on ''his'' RS.

if you want to derestrict it, (NSR, RS and RX were thi method) you will need a drill to drill out a little washer/cone from inside the exhaust.

the RX50 restricted did a whopping 18mph... after it went off the clocks Shocked

just my 2p

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PostPosted: 19:03 - 13 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahhh Simple! An RX50! Brilliant bikes they are! And yes, both bikes run on the EXACT same engine, both AM6 models. Though im not entirely sure how they switch about the starting method for each bike! Could you possibly have a look around the RS, and have a look how the temprature gauge is hooked up? Im thinking of fitting one to my RX.

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PostPosted: 19:06 - 13 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

ohh wicked!! il be doing my bike this saturday 14th january, drestricting it, and im putin on the new exhaust and yamaha are putin my new jets in for me, and doing the digital clock because it only shows 50mph!!

wouldnt know about 50mph never pased 40mph lol!!

50cc's arnet just for 16 yr olds!

When i done my CBT test just before christmas there was another person doing the test with me and he was 18-19!!

i thought you could do straight 125cc test once ur 17?? maybe not! any case that proves 50cc's arnet just for 16 yr olds!!RazzRazzRazz Very Happy
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 13 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could do.

what year is your RX? I loved mine! gutted when it was gone one morning Crying or Very sad

here's a pic of the RS:
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PostPosted: 19:45 - 13 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like a smashing bike Simple! Did you get paid out on insurance or did you ever find out who done it? Im not exactly sure what year my RX is, its on an 05 plate, but im pretty sure its the 2004 or earlier model. The thing that scares me is that its not insured right now at all. But theres more security down there than in fort knox! I would have been gutted if i were you! And Golf, the CBT covers 125cc bikes aswell, you just need to be over 17 in order to upgrade to a 125cc! Also see the bikepics page in my sig for pics of my RX!
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PostPosted: 19:50 - 13 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your RX from bike pics photos appears to be the same year as ours, 2002.

ours was an 03 reg but 02 bike. was £1600 brand spanking new from speedaway.

still 10 weeks later waiting insurance payout which is going to be about £600 once you take off excess and cost of premium...o and the increase of the premium for the RS.

I only have these pictures of it;
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 13 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

ohh that bike looks nice!!

looks wel looked after!!

i feel so sorry for simple!! theres some really big f***s out there who dont care about personal stuff!! it really makes my stomach go!!

If that happnd with my TZR il cry for months, i know the thing is really slow but its stil restrected until 2morow!

Then it should be happy days i hope! finger crossed!! Very HappyVery Happy
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PostPosted: 20:18 - 13 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

that bike was immaculate, easily worth more than we paid for it new,

was heart breaking to see it when the police recovered it, the theives did 3000miles on it! according to the clocks, with the number plate on, every bit of it was bent/smashed/broke/twisted/snapped
and that would take some doing I had used that bike offroad a few times, so well balanced.

bleh I hate scum.

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