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vfr800
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PostPosted: 23:49 - 13 Jan 2006    Post subject: Advanced rider training Reply with quote

Has anyone done any?
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PostPosted: 23:54 - 13 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was warned off it as being a waste of time, i have been told to get a experienced rider to watch you ride and comment on your riding. A lot of bike schools do it for another point of sale, i would not do it myself prefer spend your cash on fuel and parts.

If you think it is going to help you then spend the money on it.
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PostPosted: 00:13 - 14 Jan 2006    Post subject: Re: Advanced rider training Reply with quote

vfr800 wrote:
Has anyone done any?


I was about to ask the same thing! Very Happy

My old man has offered to pay for advanced training (well, he offered IAM but I told him that there are other agencies out there, and IAM may not be the best). I also told him that track time, with some training, can improve road riding as well - so he's offered to pay for that too. I didn't push my luck with thoughts of a wheelie school.

He's always been against me having a motorbike, but fair play to him, I guess he thinks it will reduce my chances of having a crash and it's money well spent (I would have paid for it myself - I'm not 17 anymore - but I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth, I'll just have extra track sessions).
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PostPosted: 00:14 - 14 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

bike schools no , = £££££££££££££££

bike safe = yes

or that thing in Mancs the BMW guy did , gave him 10% off his insurance , which was where he rode around being watched by an off duty cop who volunteered his time.
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PostPosted: 00:19 - 14 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is a one day course with only two riders per advanced instructor. As an old fart myself with shit loads of experience i think there's alway's something to learn. If we were all that good biking would be safe. As i tell cog head, "it's not if but when it's going to happen".
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PostPosted: 01:27 - 14 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought about doing the institute of advanced motorists which will have more or less the same points, except riding etc then going for IAmotorcyclists
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PostPosted: 08:22 - 14 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've done the IAM. Highly recommended. Refuse to ride out with anyone who hasn't done it, as most are too slow. Laughing Well worth the £85, espically with the insurance discount I get! Wink

Ask your local group to take you out for a ride most will do one or two for free, or if anyone in Kent wants to ride out, give us a shout.

Definately not all pipe and slippers. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 09:52 - 14 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is not a waste of time. Experience is great but does not come after just a couple of years and especially if you do not know what you are doing.

Bikesafe is good but basis. There are two places that I recommend and I have done them both.

Rapid Training are superb and have bases all over the country. I have done their one day course twice. They take you through all sorts of roads and whislt they are ex traffic cops, they allow you to ride at your pace (except through towns).
The last one I did with them was with an ex racing police instructer who taught at the Nubergring for 10 years. Trying to keep up with him on his 650 Honda through the lanes on my Gixxer Thou was bloody hard work. They take you out and swap between following you and leading, giving advice on everything you do. They give you a paper afterwards on the things specific to yourselves to remember.

For the track, I recommend the California Superbike School. The training is done in 3 stages. Again superb if you want to go faster on the track.

Both of these are expensive, but accelerate the learning curve immeasurably.
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PostPosted: 11:28 - 14 Jan 2006    Post subject: Re: Advanced rider training Reply with quote

dmahon wrote:
vfr800 wrote:
Has anyone done any?


I was about to ask the same thing! Very Happy

My old man has offered to pay for advanced training (well, he offered IAM but I told him that there are other agencies out there, and IAM may not be the best). I also told him that track time, with some training, can improve road riding as well - so he's offered to pay for that too. I didn't push my luck with thoughts of a wheelie school.


But wheelie school can help you control the bike on the days that you're sitting at the lights and sneeze, accidently snapping open the throttle and dumping the clutch at the same time. Whistle Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:33 - 14 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've done a refresher course with a bike school. A day with the IAM and a trackday.

I'll be joining the IAM come March and will be returning to the bike school with the mrs for a day of training too.

Practice makes perfect. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:42 - 14 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought about the IAM until I met someone who did supervising etc for them.

He works in the civil service, (before I realised he was in the IAM), I was talking about motorcycles and how I got through my test just having a couple of lessons. Then this guy goes, not enough, not enough. (ehh who are you).

Bearing in mind that I'd been on the road in cars for 15 years, had done over 2000 miles on a 125 and read all the BSA and riding type books and practiced every day.

I realy thought about doing the IAM, but since I realise people like him are on it, i'd rather not bother.
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 14 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am planning to do Bikesafe sometime this summer, then IAM at some stage too.
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PostPosted: 12:00 - 15 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is there much to choose from between:

IAM
RoSPA/RoADA
DIAmond
BSM/RAC
Other independant training

If I'm going to do one of those, is Bikesafe worthwhile as well?

I'm thinking about it for car and bike - some of the above may not do bikes.
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PostPosted: 15:30 - 15 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm doing bikesafe mainly cause its free in NI. Will maybe look into the car one too when I get something quickish.
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