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 killa Won't Shut Up

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He does have a point.
Bikes are your choice, and dick heads are all around you, some twat will knock you off or kill you at some point, don’t kid yourself.
But then I’ll still ride, because I don’t care.
Edit:- let me just add, I didn’t chose to ignore that mobile phone comment, it’s just you aren’t going to stop people on the phone in a car/van/truck whatever. ____________________ Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.
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 Suzuki Roger

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Killa's right for once, the guy does have a point.
He's not saying "it's not the van driving mobile phone weilding dickhead's fault for killing you", but he is saying "If you choose to ride a motorcycle on the public roads with dickheads like this around in big white vans, there's a decent chance of you ending up dead! Part of the reason the biker died was because he was on a bike, and not in a car with more protection. However, that doesn't mean the van driver wasn't the cause of the accident."
 ____________________ <Simple> no I'm shaven Jon
<Simple> it is a big enough hole.. I'll leave it now
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 killa Won't Shut Up

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What I would say is that the Doctor has probably dealt with death all too often….
Once is enough, but he deals with the reality of loss, and grief every week as his job.
All he is doing is pointing out meat heads in vans take no notice of public warnings about phones because they are complete morons.
At no point will the whole of the UK stop this mobile phone thing in vehicles.
No wonder doctors and nurses call us organ donors. ____________________ Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.
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 Ben RVF Renault 5 Driver
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 Kickstart The Oracle

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 Posted: 13:46 - 25 Jan 2006 Post subject: |
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Hi
Can see where he is coming from, and to an extent agree.
We know the extra risk we take by riding a bike. It is our choice. Complain about the results of that choice too much and someone will force their choice on us instead. After all, if we want totally safe transport then a motorcycle is one of the last options you would select (along with riding a horse).
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 Kickstart The Oracle

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Hi
So how does choosing not to take the best possible safety precautions mean that you are in no way responsible for the outcome?
If the helmetless rider had been standing on the seat arms out straight and so failed to take any action to avoid a vehicle straying onto their side of the road then I am sure most people would say that they contributed to the results of someone elses mistake.
I am not saying we should all go an buy a Volvo, just that we have to accept that there is a level of risk in life, and our choices affect that. The alternative is that someone else is responsible for the effects of your choice, and so will make that choice for you.
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 killa Won't Shut Up

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Bazza first off mate, we can see this guy is obviously not a biker.
He wouldn’t have used the words ‘common sense’ in a negative way nor claimed we are stupid for not driving a Volvo.
This guy isn’t sticking up for anyone, nor is he slating men and women for riding bikes, he was just saying, a man in a van was on a phone and caused the accident for being a dick. But because the biker wasn’t wearing the Iron man suit, he died.
I must admit that this bloke is a little hasty on claiming it is due to lack of common sense but at the end of the day he is stating the obvious, which is accidents happen, you might as well do your best to protect yourself.
I’m not reading his letter and thinking “Oh shit yeah, good point” ____________________ Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.
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 Kickstart The Oracle

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Bazza
You seem to be suggesting that fault lies with a single party. I would say it rarely does, and many peoples actions will affect an accident and the outcome of an accident. Riding a bike rather than being in a car might well help to cause the accident, just as it might well help to cause the "accident" not to happen. In the same way that riding a bike and choice of gear affects the outcome (for example the rider who looses control and lands in a field when a large car in the same situation wraps itself around a lamp post before getting to the field).
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