Passing tests?

[mike_neon]

i am 16 and will be 17 in 2 months..i currently have an SR 50 and want to get a NSR 125 when i am 17...i understand that i can ride a 125 on my current CBT and provisionial licence..but i am now very confused.....

If i get a NSR 125 will i have to do another CBT, as i dont know how to ride a geared bike (dont laugh!)

And what will i have to do if i want to ride on the motor way, as i undersrtand i cant do that either if i get the bike without additional tests.....can sum 1 help me as it all very confusing, and finally will the bike be restricted...and what test(s) do i have to take to get that taken off
My SR 50 is de-restricted..as my dad told the place where i bought the bike that he wouldnt want me to ride it restricted as he thinks it is more dangerous going so slow! lol
THNX ALL!

[Bendy]

Do your CBT again on a geared bike (I'm not sure if you HAVE to, but it's not a bad idea to do anyway) and you can ride the NSR on L plates.

Pass your full bike test, and you can ride it without and on the motorway. And ride any other bike provided it's under 33bhp.

And legally, you cant de-restrict your NSR until you've passed your test.

[Ste]

You don't have to do your CBT again. There is only one CBT, and that covers all bikes under 125, whichever you are allowed to ride dependant on your age

I would actually consider getting a few hours lessons instead, because half the CBT stuff is crap, like pushing it round a carpark.

Restrictors on the NSR can be removed at any point, and doing them before you pass your test is just as illegal as removing them on the scooter

[Bendy]

/me never pushed anything round a carpark on either of her CBTs.

[mike_neon]

ok so i have to take a full bike test....i went to the honda dealer ship down the road from me..and he said u can do a 125CC test or sumthin....and then wen ur 19 u can ride anythin..does he really mean go and take a full bike test?

I really really want to be able to go on the motor way..as it is realy for that...as im not yet a serious bike rider...is a 125NSR ok for motor way work...i mean i dont wanna get thrown off in wind or sumthin....
So how roughly (i know it depends on the person) but how many lessons does it take 4 u 2 pass ur full bike test?
he also suggested a varadero 125..that is a much bigger bike..and heavier..but i prefer the NSR.....

[Ste]

Right, there are 3 types of bike license :

1. you do your test of a 125, you are limited to a bike under 33bhp for two years, and then you can ride any size bike. this is called restricted access.

2. you do your test on a big bike, and can then ride any bike. you have to be 21 to do this though. this is called DAS

3. you do it on a slow, small bike, and can only ever ride slow small bikes.

NSR will do motorway work. You do get bounced around a bit, but I did a fair bit of motorways on mine, as did/ does lots of other people on here.

I didnt have any lessons, and I dont think having any would have helped looking at it now. I did about 3,000 miles before I passed my test, failed the first on foot down in U-Turn, failed the second cos of "observation at a junction" which was a tit changing lanes last minute into my lane . Passed third time. I doubt having any lessons would have helped this in my view now.

Varadero 125. big, slow heavy. its a bigger bike as in heavier, but not as in power. NSR when deresticted is good for 100mph.

[mike_neon]

so if i take this restricted access...i would be able to de-restict the bike and ride on the motor way..ok thats cool..is it recommended for me..as i will never have been such a bike to take a couple of lessons...or just buy the bike...get used to it on the roads my self..u know with the L plates and restriction and so on...and then take the restriceted access test?

NOW I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT BIKES MECHANICALLY: The chap at the honda dealership said the varadero would do about 85mph and the NSR would do about 80mph..is that right..or does he mean restricted...and if he is just bang out wrong there..what will the NSR do at max wen its restricted...

p.s is the restricted access test hard to do..i was under the impression u have to take millions of lessons as u do a car..then go for the big test at the end? THNX ALL..

[Ste]

Yup take your test, get your license, and you can legaly derestict it, and ride on motorways. Yes, its recommended to get rid of L plates and have a full license, just like it is with cars

Get your bike, ride it a fair bit, and then start to think about test.

Varadareo might get to 85. doubt it. NSR resticted will do 80-85. Deresticted it is good for 100mph.

You dont *have* to do any lessons. Its just showing that you can ride saftly for about 30 minutes.

Are you looking at buying a new bike?

[mike_neon]

hang on u say a full licence...(dont confuse me i am slow ) is the restricted access a full licence..its just im "restricted" until i am 19 b 4 i can ride any bike?

I think i am lookin at a second hand NSR..because i really cant afford the £3 G plus the £250 extra plus insurance that honda want..obviously i need the insurance but £3000 plus the extra £250 is alot! i would really like to get everythin i need within £3000 inc insurance and decent leathers i think..wat u guys think!? that possible

THNX

[G]

Best advice is to get an older model (just as fast, not as good looks) for around £1k.

Dont get the Varedero for motorways... top speed around 65-70 will probably put you in danger a lot of the time.

If you do your full test (reccomended) then you will be restricted to a sub 33hp bike for 2 years... so do it when you're 17 and you'll be able to ride any bike when you're 19.

[mike_neon]

oh yeah but should i do abou tthe fact i dont know how to ride a geared bike...is it much harder? and is it legal to ride the bike (or try and ride it ) without training with a geared bike(i.e CBT )..cos as i have said i never got on a geared bike (shame on me)

i first got into bikes with the moped i have....but i h8 the nob end teenagers with their citroen Sax'os all sooped up and acting hard and speeding past me..as well as ppl with 125's that fly past me taking the piss and laughing!...so i wanna get the NSR and leave em sucking my exhaust!! I JUST CANT TAKE IT ANY MORE FOR THE LUV OF GOD!

since i had this moped i have never even looked at getting a car! and i think i would be well suited with a 125!

[Kris]

you can do your CBT on a scooter and then get a geared bike for the road if you wanted to (i.e. it is legal) , but you may as well learn the basics of a geared bike while youre doing the CBT. That way, when you get your NSR you will be able to ride it straight away and be loads more confident.
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[mike_neon]

so u think i should do another CBT on the NSR wen i get it..then go out and ride it and get confident..then take the restricted access test

[Korn]

I was under the impression that if you did your CBT on a 'ped you weren't allowed to ride a geared bike without taking another CBT on one.

Same as it is for manual/auto cars innit?
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[Ste]

There is only one CBT. It enables you to ride scooters when your 16, and after that scooters and 125's.

Daft? very!

And as i mentioned above, I would do some lessons instead of another CBT, cos you can get about 4-5hours of training 1:1 for the same price as a CBT

[Kris]

[Bendy]

I did my scooter CBT years ago. When I went for my DAS, they said I needed to do my CBT again on a geared bike. Whether this was that I *legally* had to, or that they just liked you to spend a day on a 125 with gears before putting you on a 500, I dont know. But in my situation it made sense to do it, as I got used to the gears/clutch thing on a weenie shit heap rather than getting straight on the ER5. They also explained stuff like choke, fuel tap, chain tension... things you dont have on a scooter.

I'd seriously suggest doing the CBT again, just cos they'll explain stuff to you that you didnt listen to when doing your scooter CBT, they'll make sure you really understand what you're doing with clutch and gears. Then you're free to ride your NSR for a bit with Ls before deciding if you want more lessons before your test or not. Get your test done as soon as you can, cos the sooner those 2 years of restriction start ticking, the sooner they'll be over.

[mike_neon]

thnx i i havbe really learnt which direction i need to go in now...once i get my NSR i will a happy little bunny and i will rule the lancashire roads...although my SR 50 Dtech has served my well and can really move from start.....i really must get into bikes more if im gonna be riding 1 for the next 4 yrs atleast...just rang my fiend and had him explain the 2 stroke and 4 stroke difference 2 me...as i wanted to know the difference on the varadero and NSR....does any of u tune ur NSR's..with diff exhasut and air filters and stuff? does it make much difference

[Bhaal85]

OK. Everybody STFU!!! This guy is obviously confused ?!@?!

It will cost you about £280 - £300 to do your test. Because of your age, you cannot do the Direct Access test. There are two test available, the A1 - Which is a waste of money, this will let you go on the motorways, carry pillions and drop the L-Plates, but you may never go above a bike higher than a 125cc.

Then there is the A2. This is a restricted license. THIS IS THE ONE YOU WANT. (Am I going a bit too fast?) You take this when your 17. You ride a bike with a capacity of 120 - 125cc capeable of 60mph and when you pass it, you are restricted for two years. This means that for two years you may not go on a bike producing more than 33bhp (I think something like the 400cc bikes).

If you plan to get a NSR125, try to avoid doing your test on it. Use the bikes they have at the test centre, the Yamaha 125's that are 4 stroke, you will find it is much smoother (cause its a 4 stroke) and the U-turn will be a snap, also if you come off your NSR it wil cost you a bom to get new fairings.

You spend roughly three days training, where you are taught all the shit you did in CBT but more advanced.

I went from a ped to a geared bike. Took me two hours to finally figure out what I was doing wrong, I did not do my CBT again. EXPERIENCE - invaluable. Learn from your own experiences. As long as you have experienc on the road on your ped you should know what to do.

When the training is complete, you have to do your theory, this is a peace of piss, but you have to learn all that weird shit, like 'what documents do you need to go abroad', etc. As long as you know your road signs then you should be OK. There is also a harzard and perception test.

After passing theory, you go on to do your practical test. This is fairly straightforward, 'turn right' 'turn left' 'emergency brake' 'U-turn' 'Do a wheelie' 'Do a burnout' etc.

Once you have (and you will) pass the test. You can de-restrict your bike, build up some no claims, and then in about five years get a DUCATI!!!

P.S somebody gimme some karma plz? - My boss almost caught me writing this HUGE essay.

[G1_]

Right this is what I did:

Passed my cbt when I was 16 on a moped. Rode the moped for about a year and a half. Decided it was time to upgrade. Dithered for ages about what route to take. Eventually decided to do my restricted access. Rode a geared bike for the first time at the start of a three day course. Passed second time. Skipped 125's and got a CB250.

Nobody seemed to complain that I had done my cbt on a twist and go when I did my test.
Geared bikes can be daunting at first (a lot to do at the same time)
but you will pick it up.
I would suggest that you dont empty your bank account on your first bike. Better to save it up for later (when they get more expensive). You are also more likely to crash in your first couple of years, so you dont want to be loosing lots of money if you do.
Do some lessons if you feel you need them. But I would look into lessons when you look into doing your test.
The nsr can be used on motorways but it aint best suited. If you are going to do your test, then look into 250's etc. 125's are generally not suited to motorways that much.

umm...ya thats about it

[G]

[mike_neon]

thnx alot that little essay of urs has really helped..i know which way to go now! WOOHOO

but u dont think a 125 is best for motor ways..i mean it will be 4 trips down to birmingham and so on which is about 2 hours away..wouldnt it hold up 2 that? does any 1 suggest a better bike for this...im not really interested in the varadero bike any more...since i have seen the pics of ppls NSR's on this site (DROOOOOL ! but i know once i go to the honda place again..and finally get to sit on 1 of em'....i will sell my sisters for te bike...PLUS EXCHANGE OF MY SR50! LOL

[Korn]

[Robby]

ginger one did the right thing, it makes a lot more sense to pass your test through a training place on a course - that way you really learn to ride well, and you will pass first time.

Then you can skip the 125 stage, which is good, because 125s suck. You can get something like a honda CB250, suzuki GN250 which make about the same power as a 125 2 stroke (like an NSR) but they are much easier to ride, easier to learn on, probably better on motorways or about the same, more comfortable, and dirt cheap to buy, insure, and crash.

for a bit of reference i sent my CB250 sliding down the road, and it only cost me 3.50 for a brake lever. had i sent an NSR down the road it would have cost me about 100quid in fairings, then an indicator, and a lever on top.

oh and 125 buying prices and insurance are hugely overinflated, whereas 250s are rock bottom.

[M1ke]

The 125cc two strokes really arent built for 2 hours on a motorway especially for everyday use. If i was doing that sort of mileage I would go for a four stroke, they require less maintenance and run for ever.