100 UK deaths in Iraq

[RobB]

100 members of the UK armed forces have been killed in Iraq since the start of the war.


The figures below are from this mornings Metro, which put that in context for me a little. I am aware that the Metro may not be the most reliable source of information in the world, but I assume these figures are roughly correct.

- 309 private contractors have been killed.
- 150 Aid workers.
- 2,445 members of coalition forces.
- 16,420 US troops have been wounded in combat.
- The highest number of US troops killed in ONE MONTH is 137.
- An estimated 100,000 Iraqi troops and civilians have lost their lives.

- On top of that, economically the war has so far cost the UK £5.6bn, and America £140bn. The estimated total cost for the war is £1,100bn


I mean no offence to anyone currently serving, or with family that are, but 100 UK deaths seems insignificant to me compared to the above numbers.
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[Visitor Q]

Thats what, 20 minutes of the somme... if that?
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[Visitor Q]

[WR450_geezer]

Personally I think its alot considering we havent got as many soldiers out there as america etc.

WR
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[McGee]

Thats war accept it.
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[Black Knight]

TBH I feel its part of the job. If you want to be a soilder boy and run around shooting people than you've got to accept the risk as well whether you agree with the war or not.

Ex servicemen (and women) giving that old line about how they fought so I could lead the life I lead and be free etc is a load of bollocks. You did it because it was a good job for you and paid your wages. Don't bore me with your shite. The only exeption I currently find to this is those who are conscripted into it.

100 Soildiers killed. Whoopee do. I wonder how many innocent people have been killed by armed forces, US, UK or otherwise.
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[Visitor Q]

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[Visitor Q]

[veeeffarr]

Probably

Although the article is a bit biased.

[craigie b]

[craigie b]

I also think the military should not take the blame for the deaths of innocents (unless they violate orders) because ultimately it is our democratically elected politicians who authorise the militaries use. Because the politicians can't do their job the military ends up dealing with the politicians mess, which in turn leads to a body count.

So bearing that in mind, I think 100 soldiers dead is a sad stat as it is 100 of our fellow people who have died doing the duty of our elected governments

[Black Knight]

[headlamp]

The reason why these 100 deaths are hard to swallow is that the reason they are there in the first place was because we were told that Saddam Hussein had 'weapons of mass destruction' that could be launched in 45 minutes and reach Cyprus, as well as being passed to AL Quaeda to use in the West! It was patently a lie (remember the death of Dr Kelly?) and we, the UK public, the Armed forces and the rest of the world were duped into believing the was was right & just.

IMHO none of these deaths are justified (indeed anyone who has died in this conflict) and all it has done is encourage other extremist regimes to pursue their own programmes of weapons of mass destruction, radicalise a large proportion of Muslims and make us all worse off.
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[Visitor Q]

According to bremner, bird and fortunes 'you are here' there are serious conspiracies floating about.

Apparently most of the intelligence for the chemical weapons etc was from a deranged drunk iraqi looking for a green card.
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[Visitor Q]

According to bremner, bird and fortunes 'you are here' there are serious conspiracies floating about.

Apparently most of the intelligence for the chemical weapons etc was from a deranged drunk iraqi looking for a green card.
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[RobB]

100 UK deaths just seems like nothing compared to the estimated 100,000 Iraqi people who've lost their lives. There have also been 3 times as many private workers killed. This is regardless of personal position on the war.

It saddens me that this country (maybe every country) is self centred enough to have vigils and outrage for 100 of "our" deaths. Should there have been a front page story for every 100 Iraqi deaths? We'd have no other news.

I'd agree with Black Knight that these days, it's seen as just another job. I'm not sure it was the same back in the late 1930's though. If nothing else, you'd essentially have been branded a coward by society for not volunteering, let alone refusing conscription.
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[RobB]

Wherever I read the figures, the estimate is always given with a caveat.

Right wing version, people are making the figures out to be bigger than they are in order to make out the war is bad.

Left wing version, the figures are probably much lower than actual deaths, due to the Americans covering it all up.

As for the Muslims/Iraqi's doing it to themselves, you could comfortably argue that there would be a lot less suicide bombings without the military presence from their enemy.

I have little or no sympathy for the private contractors who've been killed, but it's still a higher figure than our troops. The contractors are no doubt getting a ridiculous wage, and have accepted this as a fair balance to the risk involved. Their families will probably also be compensated further than those of fallen soldiers.

I'd say that I was being hopeful in the extreme, rather than foolish, to hope 100,000 deaths anywhere might raise some sympathy.
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