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MinhDinh
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 27 Jan 2006    Post subject: my first off! (not a big drop) what to do about my bike? Reply with quote

well i was going to work on tuesday when i saw police and a scene of a car crash. so i was diverted and consequently was late for work. i then kinda rushed it and took a speed bump at 30 mph. next thing i was on the floor, but fortunately i only have bad grazes. i guess the bump was icy or something. atleast now i will learn not to rush getting to work on time. my front fairing definately needs changing because it is totaly broken. my left side is pretty bad, but i think i will leave it. the bike kinda hit a wall on the left side of the road. it wouldn't start when i got up. i havent had the chance to look at it becuase of work. any ideas why it didnt start? my insurance runs out next month, should i renew and then claim? or just buy new front fairing, mudguard etc...

i have a rs 125 2005 bike. i havent got a day off til thursday, and i am too depressed to really touch the bike til then. ah well the bicycle will make me fit :p
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 27 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to change the "Road" bit in your avatar to "speed bump" Wink

Unlucky about the off.

Don't claim on your insurance, have a good look over the bike and see what needs doing. If you don't know what you're looking for find someone who does.

Get any bits that are essential to get it running from ebay, or if they're minor parts and inexpensive you could always go to a dealer for ease and speed.

As for the cosmetics, leave them as they are for the next time you try to do an Evil Knievel over a speed bump Wink
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PostPosted: 22:41 - 27 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

shit one mate,

when my bike fell over on the tarmac (i wasn't near it , hot day and crappy laid tarmac ment bike fell Sad , maybe you bike just spilled out all the fuel or its flooded

fairings for the rs are expensive as you probably well know. but you can check ebay for it . that or you know someone who's a genius with isopon.

do not claim of your insurance you will regret it . just get hold of the front fairing and mudguard and then when u get some cash either buy a new side fairing or repair it . check theres no other damage , you havn't cracked anything.

don't rush to work fuck it you'll loose 15mins to half hour tops. not work dangering yourself or getting points
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PostPosted: 22:58 - 27 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't know anyone who knows much about bikes. i will take a closer look and describe what i can on here when i get the chance. i had a feeling the fairing would be expensive, but i couldn't find 2005 fairing on ebay. i suppose i will just go to my bike dealer and get a quote. such a crap feeling that i rushed to work to earn money, and yet i crash and probably will lose a hell of a lot more. ah well, atleast i am okay. i'll take a look at the bike on thursday with my day off when i can see because its too dark when i get home from work. on the good side, i still love biking and everytime i smell petrol or oil i get the feeling damn i wish i had my bike. anyway, i will get back to you guys sometime soon. ty for all the advice again Smile take care everyone.

low incomes and biking for the lose!!! Sad
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PostPosted: 23:01 - 27 Jan 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it wont turn over first check you are getting a spark....Hold the plug cap with pliers and touch the plug end on the frame whi trying to start the bike rubber handled pliers are invaluable i learnt this when i was about 12.....
If you cant get it to start dont start panicking just yet check the carb is properly attatched to the cylinder i.e give it a good yank side to side if it moves around or comes off then it wasnt on correctly

If your carb is secured properly and it wont start then start panicking Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 02 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi guys. sorry for the non bikers terminolgy. i don't really know much about bikes and cars etc. anwyay i phoned up my dealer and they said minimum the front fairing is gonna be 155 pounds. the cost of work for them is 55 pounds. he asked me about my mounts being bent. i'm not sure what it is, but from looking at the bars etc behind the head lights, nothing seems broken.

update:

front fairing has a big chuck missing. the screws that hold the windscreen to the fairing are mostly missing.

my left indicator needs to be glued or something.

left fairing pretty scratched up. i'm gonna leave it because i am on a low income.

my clutch pedal is bent.

the bottom mudguard is shattered.

my bike won't start. the battery wasn't entirely dead, but the bike sounds like the kill switch is on or something. it doesn't sound like it normally does. the kill switch isn't on. someone mentioned that i need to check the plugs. how do i do this? the baterry is ebing charged now. please help me by today because this is my only day off in the week, and if i can get the engine to turn on, then maybe i can sort things out today. thanks for any advice.
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PostPosted: 13:55 - 02 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it doesnt sound like it normally does, the exhaust might have snapped somewhere or come away from the manifold, causing it to blow? RS125s do have the exhaust on the left, don't they... ?

When trying to start my old moped with no exhaust (working on it), it sounded really wierd, it didn't fire up cos the plug was out, just made a sort of "dub dub dub" noise every time the piston went up and down.

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PostPosted: 13:56 - 02 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

MinhDinh wrote:
my clutch pedal is bent.
Shocked Wink

If you can, put some pictures of the damage up so we have some more of an idea what to look at.

When you press the button does the bike make any noises, such as the starter motor tyring to go?
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PostPosted: 13:58 - 02 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

At least you've got your first off out of the way with, thats one less thing to worry about Wink
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PostPosted: 14:46 - 02 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

now i know nothing about rs 125, but....

i think they are single cylinder, so it has 1 sparkplug, hav a look around the top of the cylinder for a thick black leed coming out of it. this is a hight tension lead which carries current to the plug. take it off the engine to reveal the plug. you might need to go to a garage and borrow a pulg sprocket. take your pulg out and clean it, then reattach your hight tension lead, place the metal bit at the end of the plug against the cylinder <<edit>> Cover the hole wherwe the plug was <</edit>>, and try starting the bike. you should see a spark in the plug.

if not, you need a new plug.

if there is a spark, put the plug back in, try and start the bike, then remove the plug carefully.

if the plug is dry, there is no fule gettin to the engine, if it is wet, then erm, it should catch lol

if the plug is dry, you have to check your carb then, or a pipe may be disconected, nipped etc.
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PostPosted: 16:38 - 02 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

When your looking for a spark make sure you cover the hole from where the spark plug should be, otherwise you will get burnt.
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PostPosted: 17:13 - 02 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barney wrote:
When your looking for a spark make sure you cover the hole from where the spark plug should be, otherwise you will get burnt.


It would be funny to see the guy after the bang - he'd look like a foetus. No eyebrows or hair.

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PostPosted: 19:05 - 02 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barney wrote:
When your looking for a spark make sure you cover the hole from where the spark plug should be, otherwise you will get burnt.


Eh?

Why would you get burnt? If there's no sparkplug to ignite the petrol?
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PostPosted: 20:22 - 02 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

SoND wrote:
Barney wrote:
When your looking for a spark make sure you cover the hole from where the spark plug should be, otherwise you will get burnt.


Eh?

Why would you get burnt? If there's no sparkplug to ignite the petrol?


The compressed petrol plus the stroke of the piston will possibly chuck fuel out of the the gap over the spark plug and over your hand holding the spark plug, and if its working correctly and makes a spark the petrol will ignite.
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PostPosted: 20:32 - 02 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barney wrote:


The compressed petrol plus the stroke of the piston will possibly chuck fuel out of the the gap over the spark plug and over your hand holding the spark plug, and if its working correctly and makes a spark the petrol will ignite.


I have never seen this happen in over twenty years of playing around on bikes, guess some people are just unlucky.

Just a suggestion, make sure all the terminal blocks around the headstock are still connected properly.
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PostPosted: 20:38 - 02 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

marki wrote:
Barney wrote:


The compressed petrol plus the stroke of the piston will possibly chuck fuel out of the the gap over the spark plug and over your hand holding the spark plug, and if its working correctly and makes a spark the petrol will ignite.


I have never seen this happen in over twenty years of playing around on bikes, guess some people are just unlucky.

Just a suggestion, make sure all the terminal blocks around the headstock are still connected properly.


Yes, I can't imagine it often happens. I was working with someone, he was testing for a spark on a chainsaw - badly burnt his hand.
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PostPosted: 20:49 - 02 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Checked the fuses?

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PostPosted: 00:41 - 03 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You might complain to highways authority that the speed bump caused your accident too.
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 03 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

doggone wrote:
You might complain to highways authority that the speed bump caused your accident too.


dont you think they will say its a speed hump its meant to slow you down from doing the particular speed limit and well an RS125 is a little sports bike with hard shocks etc and at 30 is going to want to chuck you off!

but if there was ice, oil etc on there or appears day to day then you would have a valid reason!

Sorry to hear about the damage but definately check on ebay for parts as there is always bits and bobs a lot cheaper just takes time finding or waiting!

dont know a lot about the RS's but when my old nc30 went down the road and wouldnt start, was just coincedence that my fuel tap diaphrgm happened to pack up, check all hoses etc!

Failing that perhaps some part of electrics, hard to know without being there and hearing it etc!

good luck anyways!
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PostPosted: 04:46 - 04 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barney wrote:

The compressed petrol plus the stroke of the piston will possibly chuck fuel out of the the gap over the spark plug and over your hand holding the spark plug, and if its working correctly and makes a spark the petrol will ignite.


How do you suck petrol into the chamber and compress it with no spark plug and so no compression?
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PostPosted: 11:10 - 04 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
Barney wrote:

The compressed petrol plus the stroke of the piston will possibly chuck fuel out of the the gap over the spark plug and over your hand holding the spark plug, and if its working correctly and makes a spark the petrol will ignite.


How do you suck petrol into the chamber and compress it with no spark plug and so no compression?


Well im no mechanic, if your really interested I can ask the dude I work with and get him to explain it clearer. All I know is that fuel came out the top, over his hand, the spark ignited and he got burnt. I was just assuming that was the reason why it came flying out.
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PostPosted: 18:13 - 04 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I managed to stay on the smod after launching it over one of those thin but high speed bumps at about 60 ish (damn anglesey and there sneaky speedbumps), probably because i took it MX style.

A long way from fun though. Next time you take a speed bump, or indeed any bump, try standing in a kind of jockey crouch, it decompresses the suspension or such.
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PostPosted: 13:45 - 09 Feb 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

after charging the baterry i tried putting it back in on sunday. i was using my left hand and not looking when taking the bolt out... the bolt dropped and i couldn't find it. i went to the msn show and it was too dark to look when i got back. luckily a garage gave me one for free today. the engine works, but it took 20 seconds to ignite, which gave me a big damn scare. i used ultra tough sort of industrial tape and managed to get the headlight and fairing pieces fairly secure. my bike dealer is too busy today so can't look at it, so i had to book an appointment next thursday (my only day off and they close on sunday). i havent had a ride yet but i am well chuffed. i have a new helmet and boots cheap from the mcn show. it's a sunny day and i am about to test the bike out. the first week without my bike was okay, but the 2nd week i have been such a prick at work. i suppose my bike does make me feel good and relieves stress, but i never realised it. well guys, i think i finally will get a good ish ending. thanks for all your support and help fellow bikers. that's what biking is about i guess. big smileeeeeee Very Happy
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